Which has more theory to Learn for Black: Classical e5 or Sicilian?

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kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote:
… kindaspongey wrote:
IAmBaconAgain wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
IAmBaconAgain wrote:

Just follow opening principles. ...

"What is your favorite opening? ..." - CanterburyRocks (April 4, 2019)

"White: English.  Flexible and not a lot to have to commit to memory. Black: Taimanov Sicilian.  Again, not a lot of memory commitment.  Benko Gambit.  Easy to understand pawn structures." - IMBacon (April 4, 2019)

… all openings involve principles.

Did anyone indicate otherwise?

... some need to be advised [that all openings involve principles]. ...

Did anyone in this thread write something specific that indicates a need to be advised that all openings involve principles?

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote:

... Because for the 98% of us, opening principles are sufficient.

If someone does not want to "just" follow opening principles, you think it can be concluded that the person needs to be advised that all openings involve principles?

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote (Emphasis added.):
kindaspongey wrote:

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Since it does appear that you are fixated on me, ... I do think you have an agenda. 

Are you confirming that you are indeed IMBacon and/or SoupTime4? Anyway, I am indeed concerned about such activities as telling people in a thread that "all openings involve principles" without being aware of anything specific, written in the thread, indicating a lack of awareness of that information. You can call that an agenda if you like. Do you (under some name or other) do things like that a lot?

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
IAmBaconAgain wrote:
… kindaspongey wrote:
IAmBaconAgain wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
IAmBaconAgain wrote:

Just follow opening principles. ...

"What is your favorite opening? ..." - CanterburyRocks (April 4, 2019)

"White: English.  Flexible and not a lot to have to commit to memory. Black: Taimanov Sicilian.  Again, not a lot of memory commitment.  Benko Gambit.  Easy to understand pawn structures." - IMBacon (April 4, 2019)

… all openings involve principles.

Did anyone indicate otherwise?

... some need to be advised [that all openings involve principles]. ...

Did anyone in this thread write something specific that indicates a need to be advised that all openings involve principles?

I dont know. … why does that require you to be the forum dungeon master?

I am not required by anyone to do anything here. Were you required to tell people that all openings involve principles?

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
IAmBaconAgain wrote:

... Because for the 98% of us, opening principles are sufficient.

If someone does not want to "just" follow opening principles, you think it can be concluded that the person needs to be advised that all openings involve principles?

It would help.

You think it would help to tell people what they already know?

SmyslovFan

Please, just shut down the @IamBaconagain and his other sock puppet accounts again. He's just trying to get threads closed.

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote:

...  If you dont understand that all openings involve principles, ...

I do. (Well, I guess I would not want to claim that I know about all openings, but I understand that principles are involved in the openings commonly discussed in books.)

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
IAmBaconAgain wrote (Emphasis added.):
kindaspongey wrote:

...

Since it does appear that you are fixated on me, ... I do think you have an agenda. 

Are you confirming that you are indeed IMBacon and/or SoupTime4? Anyway, I am indeed concerned about such activities as telling people in a thread that "all openings involve principles" without being aware of anything specific, written in the thread, indicating a lack of awareness of that information. You can call that an agenda if you like. Do you (under some name or other) do things like that a lot?

... Just for fun, try and find someone else to obsess over. Or keep obsessing over me.  It doesnt matter.

I am indeed concerned about such activities as telling people in a thread that "all openings involve principles" without being aware of anything specific, written in the thread, indicating a lack of awareness of that information. Do you (under some name or other) do things like that a lot?

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:

… I am not required by anyone to do anything here. Were you required to tell people that all openings involve principles?

So you cant help yourself? ...

My decisions are a matter of choice. Did you tell people here that all openings involve principles because you were unable to help yourself?

Nicator65

I miss the times when posting off-topic granted a deleted post.

Nicator65

Aye, as long as it remains on topic.

fairytalelion

@Bacon and @spongey give a good reason for gun controls. Argue as much as you like, but can you please... Stop doing the stretchy long quote thing?!

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote (~4 hours ago):

... all openings involve principles.

"... All openings do involve principles. I wasn't telling anyone anything. ..." - IAmBaconAgain (~1 hour ago)

See above.

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote (~1 hour ago):

... I was stating a fact. ...

In a post in this thread.

bong711

Who wants to volunteer to tally count for? 

A. e4 e5

B. e4 c5

SeniorPatzer

Polite warning to Bacon and Spongey:  please no more sniping at each other.  I have never done this, which is banning people from a thread because I'm a fervent believer in responsible free speech aka the First Amendment but you guys are quarreling way too much, and its distracting to folks.  

 

Please.  Stop.

kindaspongey
IAmBaconAgain wrote (~3 hours ago):
checkmateohwait wrote:

but are you the real bacon?

The only real bacon is pork bacon!

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/back-by-popular-demand-bacons-principles

"... you obsess over ... everything i post." - IAmBaconAgain (~2 hours ago)

Do you see a previous reaction by me to the post from about 3 hours ago?

kindaspongey
SeniorPatzer wrote:

... please no more sniping at each other. ...

I am not sure what you consider as sniping by me at IAmBaconAgain, but it seems to me that it can be considered to be sniping if one makes an accusation that I am obsessing "over" "everything" that IAmBaconAgain posts.

kindaspongey
bong711 wrote:

Who wants to volunteer to tally count for? 

A. e4 e5

B. e4 c5

A.

"... 1.e5 has WAY more theory if you follow 2.Nf3 with Nc6." - HerNaturalConfidence (~2 days ago)

"... The double king pawn opening ... forces you to be familiar with all kinds of different openings from the Scotch to the King's Gambit to the Guioco Piano and of course the Spanish Torture - the Ruy Lopez. I think the Sicilian just got a reputation for needing to know a lot of theory for due to specific sharp lines or stupid people learning reams of variations to try to force the dragon to still work against white's common sense moves." - Uhohspaghettio1 (~11 hours ago)

"... My six volumes of ECO covers the Sicilian in 212 pages and the Open Sicilian in under 144 pages. It covers 1.e4 e5 in 367 pages. It covers the Spanish in 210 pages." - SmyslovFan (~10 hours ago)

B.

"Some people think e5 is a lot of theory. I don't believe so, at least when compared to the sicilian UNLESS you play 2...Nc6 ..." - MatthewFreitag (~1 day ago)

"I reckon there is a lot more theory for Sicilian than e5. ..." - twilkinson (~18 hours ago)

"In general Sicilian has more theorie to learn because of enormous number of variations," - jay_freeman (~16 hours ago)

"Sounds good" - CatFromIzrael (~16 hours ago)

fairytalelion

Maybe he be fake @Bacon? Wheres the goofy pic?