Which has more theory to Learn for Black: Classical e5 or Sicilian?

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IAmBaconAgain wrote:
fairytalelion wrote:

Maybe he be fake @Bacon? Wheres the goofy pic?

What kind of goofy pic do you want?

Pic of you with blond hair, pot belly, idiot smile.

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Are you @Mustang.Mate as well?

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@Bacon be male, surely... unless you are imposter. @Stiggling or somebody? 

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SmyslovFan wrote:

Don't believe everything you read.

The Sicilian starts on move one. The Spanish starts on move three. If you were to compare apples to apples, it would be the Sicilian vs 1.e4 e5. Or the Open Sicilian vs the Spanish.

The theory on both 1.e4 e5 and the Sicilian is massive. 

My six volumes of ECO covers the Sicilian in 212 pages and the Open Sicilian in under 144 pages. It covers 1.e4 e5 in 367 pages. It covers the Spanish in 210 pages. 

 

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I believe choice between Sicilian vs Ruy Lopez reroute to playing style. 

Tactical vs Positional

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As noted before, the ECO has five and not six volumes. Besides, the number of pages in an openings book speaks of the popularity of a system and not much more.

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IAmBaconAgain wrote:
kindaspongey wrote:
SeniorPatzer wrote:

... please no more sniping at each other. ...

I am not sure what you consider as sniping by me at IAmBaconAgain, but it seems to me that it can be considered to be sniping if one makes an accusation that I am obsessing "over" "everything" that IAmBaconAgain posts.

Sniping:

To make malicious, underhand remarks or attacks.

Nothing specific identified.

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Nicator65 wrote:

As noted before, the ECO has five and not six volumes. Besides, the number of pages in an openings book speaks of the popularity of a system and not much more.

Yes, I made a mistake and said it's six volumes. I know it's five volumes. But I bought the six volume set which included Informant's  Encyclopedia of Chess Middlegame Combinations. I bought the entire six volume set for only $100! 

Nowadays, the sixth volume alone is worth $100!
https://www.amazon.com/Encyclopedia-Chess-Middlegames-Nikolai-Krogius/dp/B000UNPDTA/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=encyclopedia+of+chess+middlegame&qid=1585289445&sr=8-2

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HerNaturalConfidence wrote:
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Some people think e5 is a lot of theory. I don't believe so, at least when compared to the sicilian UNLESS you play 2...Nc6

I always play the Petrov's and have found very easy ways to simplify theory learning.

However, if you REALLY want to learn no theory, do the Scandinavian.

I know what you're thinking, the Scandinavian is sketchy. But the modern variation is really, really solid and gives black winning chances. It's what I use against players when I'm looking for a win.

 

There is TONS of theory in all of those lines.  Just because you might not of learned it doesn't mean that the other guy isn't booked up past move 20.  

There is TONS of theory in every opening in existence. Even The grob has a ton of theory.

However, compared to the amount of theory an amateur knows in the sicilian or spanish, the amount of theory in the lines I mentioned is a very small amount. They both force your hand, and the modern scandinavian is almost a system in the way that you can just bring pieces out.

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Yes. Playing the Kan or Scandi... very different from playing the Nadjorf or Ruy.