B1ZMARK wrote:
Just because some are better than others doesn't make them better than ALL of the others.
True.
Which is the best chess opening
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B1ZMARK wrote:
french v caro kann.
Basically the same.
The difference is still there though.
Apr 29, 2021
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#44
shadow1414 wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
french v caro kann.
Basically the same.
The difference is still there though.
a 2% increase in draw rate is such a big difference it really makes a dent into how the caro kann is better than the french
sure.
Apr 29, 2021
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#45
you're literally knitpicking now beecause there isn't any proof that any single opening is better than ALL OtHER OPENINGS.
To see what the best opening is, you would have to be able to play all the best moves. All of the master games in the chess.com database are from human players-- people who can oversee things and blunder. To determine the best opening, a super chess computer would have to be developed.
As chess theory expands with the progression of time, some openings will outshine others. Even if future chess players can't find the best opening, they should be able to narrow down the possibilities to a relatively small group of openings.
B1ZMARK wrote:
you're literally knitpicking now beecause there isn't any proof that any single opening is better than ALL OtHER OPENINGS.
That's not what I mean. I mean that some openings are good and some are bad. Not that 1 is better than all the other(Not saying that's not possible though). If I phrased it poorly then sorry for that.
I agree with #50 and #51.
Apr 29, 2021
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#50
shadow1414 wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
you're literally knitpicking now beecause there isn't any proof that any single opening is better than ALL OtHER OPENINGS.
That's not what I mean. I mean that some openings are good and some are bad. Not that 1 is better than all the other(Not saying that's not possible though). If I phrased it poorly then sorry for that.
you've literally been arguing that there is a best chess opening all this time
Apr 29, 2021
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#51
how do you differentiate between whether an opening is better than another opening or the people playing that opening aren't playing it correctly?
DaBabysSideTing wrote:
how do you differentiate between whether an opening is better than another opening or the people playing that opening aren't playing it correctly?
How does one know if an opening is good? An opening is usually defined as good when it gives the player a good chance of winning the game. Some openings are better than others because their player has greater chances to win (or draw). Would a notable opening like the Sicilian be a good opening to a 400 rated player? No, it would not be, because the player doesn't know the best moves and therefore the benefits from the opening are wasted.
Essentially, the best opening will give the most/best benefits. However, we will only know which opening has the best benefits if people play the opening with best play.
Apr 29, 2021
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#53
Nennerb wrote:
DaBabysSideTing wrote:
how do you differentiate between whether an opening is better than another opening or the people playing that opening aren't playing it correctly?
How does one know if an opening is good? An opening is usually defined as good when it gives the player a good chance of winning the game. Some openings are better than others because their player has greater chances to win (or draw). Would a notable opening like the Sicilian be a good opening to a 400 rated player? No, it would not be, because the player doesn't know the best moves and therefore the benefits from the opening are wasted.
Essentially, the best opening will give the most/best benefits. However, we will only know which opening has the best benefits if people play the opening with best play.
exactly thats what im saying
I don't care anymore. This debate is going nowhere. Whoever is right IDC. I phrased things poorly and people don't understand that? I will un-follow this thread now as I do not want to continue this discussion any-further. Have a great day(BTW the word "best" HAS to be defined for any and all discussions)
Apr 29, 2021
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#55
shadow1414 wrote:
I don't care anymore. This debate is going nowhere. Whoever is right IDC. I phrased things poorly and people don't understand that? I will un-follow this thread now as I do not want to continue this discussion any-further. Have a great day(BTW the word "best" HAS to be defined for any and all discussions)
Oop. Rage quit.
french v caro kann.
Basically the same.