TaterBoy37 wrote:
There are even some nice traps
Engines don't assess a position based on traps. Engine assessments assumes both sides play what the engine thinks is the best moves for each side!
Why does stockfish hate this opening?
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As white I open the game with either
1. d4 2. e3 3. Bd3
Or
1.d4 2.Nf3 3.e3
Often I transpose into a reverse Noteboom, a reverse Queen's Gambit Accepted, or a reverse Semi Slav ... all of them obviously with a move in hand. Often the assessment is equal, to slightly favoring Black... Imo I don't think modern chess engines asses opening theory as well as we think.
Mazetoskylo. 6. d6 is top engine move apparently so I don’t know why. f3 prevents the bishop from taking my pawn after he castles.
May 18, 2025
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This looks like a rather fun opening. Naysayers and stockfish aside, if you enjoy the line , play it and discount the wet-blankets. You'll get the best results by playing openings you enjoy the most.
" White (Black) hardly has any advantage after (playing line xyz) anyway, black(white) will draw if they both play perfectly"---standard opinion of lines that people are critical of, but neither player is objectively at a disadvantage
Probably the risk to the queen. Note that c pawn is locked down by the knight so you can not use the natural a4 to d1 diagonal to escape, like black does for Scandi on a5 to d8. The engine wants to drive back the queen with pawn attacks. Lots of tempi to move the queen about.
adijayajmanj wrote:
That’s why Scandinavian isn’t a popular opening d5 exd5 Qxd5 Nc6 and just like that white is winning
I assume you were being sarcastic. However the analogy is not perfect. In the Scandinavian when white plays Bf1-c4 black can close that diagonal with ...e7-e6, usually after first developing ...Bc8-f5(g4). In the Center Game white has already played e2-e4, and pawns don't move backwards. So 1 e4 e5 2 d4 exd4 3 Qxd4 Nc6 4 Qa4 (probably should be ?!) 4... Bc5 (or 4... Nf6 first and then 5... Bc5) that bishop is very strong. Attacks f2, supports later ...Nc6-d4 (with devious intentions on the white queen), and not so easy to exchange off. Another point of difference is that in the Scandinavian the bQa5 can still move to the kingside, but in the Center Game the wQa4 is cut off by the wPe4. Just because 3... Qa5 is a main line in the Scandinavian doesn't automatically make 4 Qa4 a good move in the Center Game.
Why 6...d6?
e4-e5 isn't a threat, and Black can keep the option of a direct ...d7-d5.
Just 6...0-0, when 7.0-0-0 allows 7...Ng4, and 7.f3?! can be answered either by 7...d5, or 7...Nh5.
I cannot see why Black isn't already much better after 6...0-0.