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Why is e4 so commonly played in the first move?
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Jun 12, 2020
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#63
e4 is a move in the center! And that is usually why some people grow up using it. Also, a lot of teachers tell their students to use it because other moves take a long time to learn. But still plenty of people use other moves.
why is e4 played even though it is very obvious and when other moves can be played to give a surprise to the opponent?
i did not exactly mean surprise . i meant only that it e4 is too expectable.
VIDYUTGANESH wrote:
Why is e4 so common? Why not nf3 or d4? They are played, but not so commonly. Why?
e4 is the most common move because it supports any rating level. Super GM's like Nakamura, Caruana, and a lot of the strongest people in the world play it. e4 is very versatile. It supports several different types of players. For the player that is patient and takes a huge attack only when it is guaranteed, there is the Giucco Piano, or Pianissimo. For the fast attacking player, there is the Fried liver, for the player that wants to play insanely aggressive right from the second move, there is the King's gambit. There are also solid defenses that pretty much anyone, regardless of rating will know. The 2 Knights, the Sicilian, the French, the Caro-Kann, the Petroff, Philidor's and lots of others. d4 is less aggressive at its best, but there is only 2 good d4 options. The London system, and the Queen's Gambit. The Queens gambit is a favorite of mine, but I don't know the Opening theory. The London system is the most sturdy structure I know. As long as you know as much or more theory than your opponent, you will definitely win. If your opponent knows more theory than you, than it will be drawn, or lost depending how much more they know. Nf3 is waaaaaaaaaay too passive for my liking. Nf6 is a good response, and you just allow d5. Nf3 is only used at the highest level, because in order to use it there has to be a lot of study and time devoted to it to find out which variation suits you most. Then again, it is just about type of style. There are several players that like to play insanely defensive. My repertoire for Black is a very defensive Sicilian. It gets attacks much later in the game, on the opponents kingside. Its too slow for my liking, but my Coach makes very convincing arguments. The Fried Liver attack and Scotch Gambit are 2 of my most favorite openings. It is not like the Kings gambit, where you would give up material without a repayment soon, but are promising and aggressive. Mikhail Tal always awes me, and while I can't even imagine sacrificing several pieces just to get a forced mate in 9, I do want to play aggressively to stun my opponents, and win games fast. e4 supports several types of playstyles, while e4, Nf3, c4 and f4 just don't support as many playstyles.
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PILOTOXOMXD wrote:
VIDYUTGANESH wrote:
Why is e4 so common? Why not nf3 or d4? They are played, but not so commonly. Why?
e4 is the most common move because it supports any rating level. Super GM's like Nakamura, Caruana, and a lot of the strongest people in the world play it. e4 is very versatile. It supports several different types of players. For the player that is patient and takes a huge attack only when it is guaranteed, there is the Giucco Piano, or Pianissimo. For the fast attacking player, there is the Fried liver, for the player that wants to play insanely aggressive right from the second move, there is the King's gambit. There are also solid defenses that pretty much anyone, regardless of rating will know. The 2 Knights, the Sicilian, the French, the Caro-Kann, the Petroff, Philidor's and lots of others. d4 is less aggressive at its best, but there is only 2 good d4 options. The London system, and the Queen's Gambit. The Queens gambit is a favorite of mine, but I don't know the Opening theory. The London system is the most sturdy structure I know. As long as you know as much or more theory than your opponent, you will definitely win. If your opponent knows more theory than you, than it will be drawn, or lost depending how much more they know. Nf3 is waaaaaaaaaay too passive for my liking. Nf6 is a good response, and you just allow d5. Nf3 is only used at the highest level, because in order to use it there has to be a lot of study and time devoted to it to find out which variation suits you most. Then again, it is just about type of style. There are several players that like to play insanely defensive. My repertoire for Black is a very defensive Sicilian. It gets attacks much later in the game, on the opponents kingside. Its too slow for my liking, but my Coach makes very convincing arguments. The Fried Liver attack and Scotch Gambit are 2 of my most favorite openings. It is not like the Kings gambit, where you would give up material without a repayment soon, but are promising and aggressive. Mikhail Tal always awes me, and while I can't even imagine sacrificing several pieces just to get a forced mate in 9, I do want to play aggressively to stun my opponents, and win games fast. e4 supports several types of playstyles, while e4, Nf3, c4 and f4 just don't support as many playstyles.
yes, i agree. but there are other moves like d4 too. they also nearly support all ratings. for that matter, , e4 , as rightly pointed out by someone earlier, can be responded to with many variations. those variations are in lots and will take a lot of time to learn them and their counter moves.
other moves can be responded to well by relatively lesser moves. so they will be easier to learn and play.
come on, voice out your opinions! this is a very interesting discussion and i am not convinced yet!!! why is 1.e4 a majority?
because bobby fisher said so
Ok. but so what? how does it become a majority ? that still does not answer my question.
more answers please!!! we want to hear everyone's point of view!!!
Jun 12, 2020
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#75
Dude, I don't understand why you're having trouble. We told you, e4 helps fast development and fights for the center, two (actually 3, if you count the fast castle) opening principles that every one, whether beginner or grandmaster should follow. d4 helps the center fight, but it is slightly slower in the development part. The d pawn is protected though, which is why it is as good as e4. Other moves do not do these two parts at the same time (some like f.e a3 none at all) that is why they are considered inferior.
yes, you did say.but i am not having any trouble. i just want to hear everyone's point of view on this topic as i like chess and i want to learn more and as i feel that you can learn something positive from everyone. so i am just urging more people to give their opinions about it. anyway, forums are after all places meant for discussion of things!
and anyway others also following this forum or reading it can learn something from it.
and anyway, i like debating about interesting topics!!!
Dude, I thought you wanted to hear a few perspectives and understand why e4 is the best, but you're literally turning this into a debate club. Besides, what opening do you play for white if you don't play e4
i play e4 sometimes itself, and sometimes d4. and kindly do not call it a debate club. my intention is not to debate here! i just said that as a matter of fact to reply to the earlier comment. only, instead of few perspectives, i want to hear more. as i feel that i learn something new from each perspective! and now please stay on the topic and give answers relate to the topic. thanks.
yes, you are right!