In stonewall it is whites king that gets attacked
Why would you play dutch in the first place?

In stonewall it is whites king that gets attacked
the stonewall attack or the stonewall defense

In stonewall it is whites king that gets attacked
the stonewall attack or the stonewall defense
Stonewall Dutch

While I gave my opinion on the Dutch (Playable, but gives White many ways to gain a slight edge) earlier, I’ll add that the Dutch is usually played to unbalance the games (It is often played when Black NEEDS a WIN)

The OP's claim at a refutation would not work against me.
I play 1.d4 e6 and then, depending on White's second move along with mood, I follow up with 2...Nf6, 2...d5, or 2...f5.
1.d4 e6!! 2.Bg5 Qxg5!!


It's funny how random 1400s online think they know better than hundreds of years of grandmaster practice and engine evaluation.
I never said I did. I just don't understand the opening

I don't think anyone actually hates the dutch, it's kind of a joke, like blond jokes or polish jokes or irish jokes.

The dutch is an opening similar to the bird opening. It may not seem that appealing to lower rated players because they do not understand how to use it. There is no best opening, there are good advantages as in the dutch an advantge is more space and control in the center. Two more advantages are you can use the f pawn against the white king and you can quickly, once castled, bring the king rook to f6 then to g6 or h6 and attack the white king. The main disadvantage is the early exposure of the e8-h5 and g8 to a2 diagonals.
Hold the presses! Magnus Carlsen occasionally plays the Dutch Defense even though an 1115-rated player on Chess,com says it's no good! How can that be?

You can always tell the Sicilians,
You can always tell the Dutch,
You can always tell the French,
But you can't tell them much!

As a Dutch player, it is a tricky opening to play but still viable. The Dutch is an opening where you NEED to know the theory as 2. Bg5 and 2. e4 lead to complicated positions. The Dutch is typically used by higher leveled players because of this. However, if you know the theory the Dutch is a good opening to play.

As a Dutch player, it is a tricky opening to play but still viable. The Dutch is an opening where you NEED to know the theory as 2. Bg5 and 2. e4 lead to complicated positions. The Dutch is typically used by higher leveled players because of this. However, if you know the theory the Dutch is a good opening to play.
I know everything there is to know about 2. e4. But 2. Bg5 still gives me problems.
the dutch opening weakens the king