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Wing Gambit: Underated?

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Yerachmeal
I really don't get why the wing gambit isn't played a lot. I do  it every time the sicilian defense is played on me. My ideal scenario with it is:
Though depending on how it's responded to I might do:
or
I really feel like all of these are better for white, so why is the wing gambit so rarely done?
LunaRamshaw

Apologies that I only took a brief look at this, but how are you arguing that white retains the first move advantage or initiative in a position like this: (is this something you would still not mind playing as white and why?)

 

Yerachmeal
LunaRamshaw wrote:

Apologies that I only took a brief look at this, but how are you arguing that white retains the first move advantage or initiative in a position like this: (is this something you would still not mind playing as white and why?)

Good question. That's not how I'd handle it. I'd do

And get a free pawn.

LunaRamshaw

I do not think that it is a free pawn. Do you want to play some training games and explore it with me?

 

Yerachmeal
Good point! Maybe this would be a better response. (I know changing my argument midway is bad, but live and learn.)
or

Yes I would like a practice game with you, I'll challenge you later if I remember.

jpkaffe

The wing gambit isn't very well known. people tend to stick to standard play and what GMs play. I don't see many top rated players playing this line. I like the wing gambit, but i'm not good enough to take advantage of the aggressive opening.

sansuk

20 years ago I always played the wing gambit on 1.e4 c5.  This was my analyse at that time :

1.e4 c5 2.b4 cxb4 3.a3 d5
(3...e5 4.axb4 Bxb4 5.c3 Bc5 6.Nf3
(6.d4!?)
6...Nc6 7.Bc4 d6 8.d4 exd4 9.cxd4 Bb4+? 10.Kf1 Menacing d5  Da4+ )
(3...bxa3 4.Nxa3)
(3...e6 4.axb4 Bxb4 5.c3 Be7 6.d4 d6 7.Nf3 Nc6 8.Be3)
4.exd5 Qxd5 5.Nf3 e5 6.axb4 Bxb4 7.c3 Bc5 8.Na3 Nf6 9.Nb5 O-O 10.Be2
(10.d4 Bb6
(10...exd4 11.Nc7 Qd7 12.Nxa8 Re8+ 13.Be2 d3 14.Be3 dxe2
(14...Bxe3 15.Qxd3 Qxd3 16.Bxd3 Bc5+)
15.Qxd7 Nbxd7 16.Nc7 Re7)
11.Nxe5 Re8 12.Qf3)
10...Bb6? 11.Ba3 Rd8 12.c4 Qc6 13.c5 Bc7 14.O-O Nbd7 15.d4 e4 16.Ng5 h6 17.Nxf7! Kxf7 18.Bc4+ Kg6 19.d5 Nxd5

Yerachmeal
jpkaffe wrote:

The wing gambit isn't very well known. people tend to stick to standard play and what GMs play. I don't see many top rated players playing this line. I like the wing gambit, but i'm not good enough to take advantage of the aggressive opening.

I mean, the Sicilian is ridiculously popular among GMs. Not so much among lower levels...

zone_chess

The Wing Gambit is very good. It has a lot of theory so unless you know the lines you are toast.
I think it's just been played to death in the 20th century which is why we don't see a revival.

alexlehrersh

The probblem is if black doesnt go for the main line its borring as hell