That's imho the nice example of Reversed Najdorf from Anderssen's opening(!) where the whites have +1 tempo :
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White Scandinavian Duh ...
Nov 18, 2010
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Thanx guys!
Panderson2 : reversed Pytel-Wade variation with the pawn on a3 to be more precise. The Anderssen's opening 1.a3 was useful btw cuz blacks can't play Bb4 or Nb4.
King's Indian Attack is OK.. Don't try the reversed Four Knights though, it is still a little bit dull.
Yigor wrote:
Thanx guys!
Panderson2 : reversed Pytel-Wade variation with the pawn on a3 to be more precise. The Anderssen's opening 1.a3 was useful btw cuz blacks can't play Bb4 or Nb4.
I was wondering if a3 has any utility vs d5 by chance ...
The London is a reversed Slav, which makes it odd that the London is considered dowdy and slow while the Slav is considered dynamic.
It's all relative. The altos sing almost the same note as tenors (I think somewhat higher but not sure), but the alts are considered to sing low and tenors high.
Nov 20, 2010
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panderson2 wrote:
Yigor wrote:
Thanx guys!
Panderson2 : reversed Pytel-Wade variation with the pawn on a3 to be more precise. The Anderssen's opening 1.a3 was useful btw cuz blacks can't play Bb4 or Nb4.
I was wondering if a3 has any utility vs d5 by chance ...
Yes, it prevents black to play the reversed Queen's gambit (cuz the white pawn on c5 would be easily defendable with b4 now). Otherwise, it prevents Bb4 move, so it's anti-Nimzo-Indian etc.
Nov 21, 2010
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Estragon wrote:
The Grunfeld Reversed, usually reached via 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 g3 d5 3 Bg2 c5 4 0-0 Nc6 5 d4. I never got comfortable with the Grunfeld as Black, but with an extra tempo I love it.
Thanx for this example!
Reversed Polish:
Try it, you know you want to......
1.d4 d5 2. Nf3 a6!? was played by Bronstein, Anand etc. so 1.d4 d5 2. a3!? could be played by many others. By the way the later one is the pet line of the French GM E. Prie.
Yet another reversed (“odd”) line – 1.g3 e5 2. c3!? d5 3. Na3!? ( 3. d4 is a bit more “orthodox” and would be a kind of the reversed Gurgenidze Modern)
PS. With it “non-reversed” version (e.g. 1.e4 c6 2.d4 Na6!?) I have some 80% wins vs a reasonable opposition. At Grandmaster level it was played extensively in the past 10-15 years by Serbian Grandmaster M. Markovic. Here is one of his games in this line.
Yigor wrote:
Estragon wrote:
The Grunfeld Reversed, usually reached via 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 g3 d5 3 Bg2 c5 4 0-0 Nc6 5 d4. I never got comfortable with the Grunfeld as Black, but with an extra tempo I love it.
Gruenfeld Reversed can easily become a Catalan. But, Gruenfeld Reversed with 1.Nf3, d5; 2.g3, c5; 3.Bg2, Nc6; 4.d4, cxd4; 5.Nxd4, e6; 6.O-O; Bc5 is annoying to White, because Black's center is better bolstered (assuming 7.Nxc6) than if he had played 5....e5. What is White's plan after 5...e6? Nb3 variations (instead of Nxc6) do not seem promising, e.g. can White ever play c4?. Also, against the Gruenfeld Reversed, Black has no problem developing QB, and can get a solid London set-up, and change White's original plan of counter-attacking Black's over-extended center.
Tigranfan wrote:
Yigor wrote:
Estragon wrote:
The Grunfeld Reversed, usually reached via 1 Nf3 Nf6 2 g3 d5 3 Bg2 c5 4 0-0 Nc6 5 d4. I never got comfortable with the Grunfeld as Black, but with an extra tempo I love it.
Gruenfeld Reversed can easily become a Catalan. But, Gruenfeld Reversed with 1.Nf3, d5; 2.g3, c5; 3.Bg2, Nc6; 4.d4, cxd4; 5.Nxd4, e6; 6.O-O; Bc5 is annoying to White, because Black's center is better bolstered (assuming 7.Nxc6) than if he had played 5....e5. What is White's plan after 5...e6? Nb3 variations (instead of Nxc6) do not seem promising, e.g. can White ever play c4?. Also, against the Gruenfeld Reversed, Black has no problem developing QB, and can get a solid London set-up, and change White's original plan of counter-attacking Black's over-extended center.
I play the grunfeld and it's annoying to me how it sometimes begins to resemble a catalan reversed.
OmarCayenne wrote:
1 c3
1.c3 is not bad. It can become a Caro-Kann or Slav Reversed, with a clear extra tempo. Or can easily transpose to Colle, Torre, London, King's Indian Attack, among many others. 1.c3, e5; 2.d4, exd4; 3.cxd4, d5; 4.Nc3 transposes to QGD Exchange Variation.
queenside fried liver
I don't know if you are counting inversions, but I play the inverted Hanham for white, which is a reverse of the Philidor Hanham variation. I also play the move order sort of "backwards" which allows me to avoid the Scandinavian. Play usually looks like this (as I play it):
By definition, 2 positions are "reversed" if they are symmetrical with respect to the horizontal midline of the chessboard. The most known example of 2 mutually reversed openings is probably closed Sicilian and closed English :
Pliz give me other examples with as much theoretical moves as possible.