Enforcing Tournament Conditions

I'm finding it quite frustrating trying to run "Very Fast Play" tournaments, when I cannot enforce the conditions clearly spelled out in the Tournaments initial broadcast, because the site won't permit me.

I have players in one I'm running right now, taking their maximum time (24 hours) to make each and every move, despite setting player speed to <3 hours in the initial settings and clearly stating what was expected of players before they signed up.

Is there any way to be given the tools we, as TD's need, to eject players clearly not adhering to tournament conditions?

Understand that <3 hours is an average for player's the time taken per move. Expect people to take their full 24 hours on online chess, as with opponents from across the globe, one player may not be awake or simply have acess to the internet until 20 hours or so after their opponent moves.

The problem Dark_Plant, is players in my tournament taking 24 hours to make every move. The entire tournament is going to come to a grinding halt while the bulk of players wait on the one or two who are flouting the tournament conditions I asked everyone (politely) to adhere to when signing up for the tournament.

I understand, but there is simply no time control you can set that is shorter than 24 hours. Kicking somebody from a tournament for taking almost 24 hours with a 24-hour time control is unfair.

Then there's really not much point in "Very Fast Play" tournaments, if a single player (and I've got 2) can sit there taking (almost) 24 hours to make every move.

TD's should have the power to enforce clearly laid out tournament conditions I think.

The "clearly laid out tournament conditions" are that they have 24 hours per move...

Only if they ignored the tournament summary.

But if you gave them 24 hours per move then they have the right to use it. Done and done.

Since when are they forced to read the tournament summary anyway?

How can they make a move within 3 hours when it takes them longer than that to sleep?

The fastest play you can use is 24/hours a move, and I consider that to be "Very Fast Play" already.

Oz these guys don't understand. Oz understands that the player technically has the right to wait 24 hrs if that's the time set, but the issue is these couple players are waiting until the last hour of every move when they are behind in games. We all know those players. No one has an issue with players across the globe. I play Oz and he is in Australia and I have never felt he was a slow player. Do I understand taking a full day every so often? Yes. But every move to the tilt is not becoming.

Unfortunately there's nothing you can do. It's the same in the chess.com tournaments, people holding up others taking all of their time in a completely lost position.

Yes, it's within the rules, but it's selfish, and often unsporting and childish.

Easy fix, add an option to just jettison the last players to finish their game every round...attrition tournaments, they could call it ;)...

Be sure it isn't a time zone issue. If one player moves at 2200h in his time zone, but in his opponent's zone it's 0100h, then expecting a 3-hour turnaround is unrealistic.

Steve,

As StillLearning26 has pointed out, I don't mind the occasional move time stretching out to 24 hours, indeed when real life intervenes I have to do that myself from time to time.

What has been the problem is some players taking 24 hours to make every move even when the tournament conditions were clearly posted and even when they've been online for long periods of time over that 24 hours.

In any event, I've solved the problem I believe. All future "Very Fast Play" tournaments I'll be running will be "Invite Only" tournaments, the invites list being seeded from players in the "Normal Play" tournaments I run who request an invite and show a speedy average move time.

I don't mind slower players in normal tournaments, it's just I'm trying to host a tournament for players who are keen on faster completion rates is all (myself included).

You cant penalize people for taking the time they are allowed to take.  Thats rediculously unfair.  The world has different time zones, not everyone is awake at the same time.  Besides...who is so busy they cant take 24 hours to make a move?

24 hours/move is screechingly fast, I don't think you understand that part of it. I will use my time until I feel like I have found the best move in a position, even in 14 days/move games I have taken the full two weeks to make a plan.

They have the right to use 24 hours/move for every move, no matter what you want.

Well Zigwurst, we're going to have to agree to disagree here I think.

Firstly, that 24 hours per move is "schreechingly fast" (if both players take their full 24 hours per move an average game could take 3 months to play).

Moreover, when 33 people sign up to a tournament that specifically asks for "very fast play" and adhere to those conditions, you and I will have to agree to disagree that the other 3 people (all of whom were English speakers) have some sort of right to thumb their noses at the other 33 and penalise them all with deliberately slow play.

As I said, all future VFP's I run will be invite only, so the problem is now solved, but the shame of that is I was trying to offer a style of tournament open to all, which now I will not be doing.

I would never play in a 24 hour/move tournament ever again after the two or three i was in. I have no time to think about my moves and be sure.

I would take every last hour to think. Now you're never going to invite me to a tournament, but I don't mind.

Zigwurst,

I have no problem with you taking every last hour to move, if that's how you choose to play. That said, if you signed up to a tournament, that specifically and clearly asked only for fast players to participate, a tournament that specifically asked people to sign up only if they were prepared to make multiple moves per day, then I would have an issue with it.

I'm not trying to dictate how other people play their chess, I am only trying to run tournaments for people who prefer genuinely fast play.