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acountisasgoodasclos

Oh I tatally agree with that I think you must be good at all kinds of chess. :) 

 

You need to play standard games Bug I don't think online chess matters you need to play in FIDE or USCF rating tournaments.

Blitz is just practice.

Warbringer33
Succorance wrote:
Warbringer33 wrote:
krzysztof7 wrote:
MSteen wrote:

Stop playing blitz. Stop playing bullet. Start playing about 10 online games at once and take the time to really really think about what you're doing before you move. Use the analysis feature to move the pieces around.

When you do play live, play at least a 15 minute time control.

Use the explore feature here to look at dozens, hundreds, thousands of master games and try to figure out why they did what they did.

Repeat the above endlessly.

Blitz is good for your chess, almost every strong player has played blitz and it's a great way to test your openings out with a lot of data.

Dude, enough - It's iron clad fact that playing blitz is terrible for someone at his level. It's teaching him absolutely nothing but bad habits. 

Absolutely not true. There's nothing wrong with blitz. It's certainly not the most effective form of training but it won't hurt.

I don't know what to tell you except that just about every chess mind on earth, now and past, disagrees with you. You're just flat out wrong and obviously stubborn since you've clearly heard the masses tell you to avoid blitz yourself. 

Improving players, at the club level, should be playing long games ...not blitz. That's...as I said, completely iron clad fact in the world of chess. Just because you *like* playing blitz, doesn't mean it's good for a developing chess mind. It's not.

X_PLAYER_J_X
MSteen wrote:

Julian,

Regarding blitz and your comments on my advice: First, of course I must bow to your greater rating. Whatever you are doing, it seems to be working. BUT I notice that you have strong ratings in all kinds of chess here. You are taking your own advice.

The OP, on the other hand, has NO games online. He has NO standard games. ALL his games are bullet and blitz. Now, I don't argue that bullet and blitz can be fun, and they can be a great way to explore a lot of different openings. But you have to know what those openings are first. This guy is like a weightlifter who wants a great body but works nothing but his arms. Without a well-rounded routine, he's bound to fail.

+1

Its all about that standard. Long time controls WOOOOO HOOOOOOO

Erik_29

It really depends on how long you've been playing as to whether or not blitz is good or bad. If you just learned how the horsey moves last month I would say stay away from all speed chess. If you have a fair amount of knowledge and understand the difference between standard and blitz chess, then blitz can help you increase calculating speed and help you spot tactics more often in longer games. This is assuming you play a lot of the same positions in both time controls which is IMO a good way to memorize patterns, and I'm referring to 10/0 games any shorter than that is to fast for me given my current chess knowledge.

acountisasgoodasclos

I will say Yes! of course standard games and better than blitz games for improvement However here are the things blitz is good for.

here is the list.

1. Blitz games if you look at them afterwords of course! are a great way to play ALOT of strong players who would not play you otherwise and learn from your mistakes. 

2. No one cares about blitz so it's a good way to test your openings.

3. You devlope chess "instinct" much faster than if you play alot of standard games 

4. all strong players in the world right now play blitz (2700+) if it's so bad for them why are they 2700?

5.  I would like to say the people who say blitz is bad are all under 1900. chess.com 

This is my Opinion.

 

Warbringer33
Erik_29 wrote:

It really depends on how long you've been playing as to whether or not blitz is good or bad. If you just learned how the horsey moves last month I would say stay away from all speed chess. If you have a fair amount of knowledge and understand the difference between standard and blitz chess, then blitz can help you increase calculating speed and help you spot tactics more often in longer games. This is assuming you play a lot of the same positions in both time controls which is IMO a good way to memorize patterns, and I'm referring to 10/0 games any shorter than that is to fast for me given my current chess knowledge.

Omg...the 2700's didn't play blitz when they were rated 1500 like us. How can you possibly make that analogy? Unbelievable...

Sure, there are beneficial things in playing blitz when you start getting proficient in chess. Proficient is like 2000. Basically, 99% of us aren't proficient, have significant gaps in our skills and theoretical understandings, have terrible tactical vision, and don't belong doing anything other than studying, playing long games (like 30/30 and longer), and analyzing them obsessively. 

acountisasgoodasclos
Warbringer33 wrote:
Erik_29 wrote:

It really depends on how long you've been playing as to whether or not blitz is good or bad. If you just learned how the horsey moves last month I would say stay away from all speed chess. If you have a fair amount of knowledge and understand the difference between standard and blitz chess, then blitz can help you increase calculating speed and help you spot tactics more often in longer games. This is assuming you play a lot of the same positions in both time controls which is IMO a good way to memorize patterns, and I'm referring to 10/0 games any shorter than that is to fast for me given my current chess knowledge.

Omg...the 2700's didn't play blitz when they were rated 1500 like us. How can you possibly make that analogy? Unbelievable...

nakamura-carlsen-anand.

X_PLAYER_J_X

I would like to share with you a few articles which might give you some idea's for more improvement.

Hopefully they can help.

The below link can help you come up with a chess plan/schedule which might help you get stronger as a chess player.

http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/chess-plan-for-beginners

 

The below link can help you learn the value of the chess pieces. On how much each piece is worth etc.

http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/chess-piece-relative-value

 

The below link can help you learn the value of the first chess move in chess. I believe it is a very nice article showing how the center has more greater impact on pieces and pawns than other area's. It is very controversal indeed. However, it is also very interesting to think about.

http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/the-most-active-move-at-move-1

 

The below link can help you learn or see what a chess repertoire looks like. In this article I show my beginner repertoire. With lines I use to love to play. As you can see it will give you a nice examples. It could be something worth thinking about.

http://www.chess.com/blog/X_PLAYER_J_X/chess-repertoire

 

Hopefully that helps you on your chess journey for improvement.

Erik_29

Well excuse me Mr know it all. I'm a little to busy running my own business to spend 10 hrs a day studying and playing long games and not that I care what the 2700 players do but prove that none of them played blitz earlier in their career. I'd bet a fair amount of gm's played at least some blitz by the time they were 1600-1800. Not all of us aspire to be titled or have the time to even try and different things work for different people depending on their time and chess goals. For you to say only one way works for every single person and anything else in completely wrong is just plain ignorant. I shared what's currently helping me because MAYBE it might give the OP some kind of help, not to have a narrow minded pompous a$$ ridicule me. Now if you'll excuse me I'm guna go work on my chess the" wrong" way.

Warbringer33 wrote:

Erik_29 wrote:

It really depends on how long you've been playing as to whether or not blitz is good or bad. If you just learned how the horsey moves last month I would say stay away from all speed chess. If you have a fair amount of knowledge and understand the difference between standard and blitz chess, then blitz can help you increase calculating speed and help you spot tactics more often in longer games. This is assuming you play a lot of the same positions in both time controls which is IMO a good way to memorize patterns, and I'm referring to 10/0 games any shorter than that is to fast for me given my current chess knowledge.

Omg...the 2700's didn't play blitz when they were rated 1500 like us. How can you possibly make that analogy? Unbelievable...

Sure, there are beneficial things in playing blitz when you start getting proficient in chess. Proficient is like 2000. Basically, 99% of us aren't proficient, have significant gaps in our skills and theoretical understandings, have terrible tactical vision, and don't belong doing anything other than studying, playing long games (like 30/30 and longer), and analyzing them obsessively. 

Warbringer33
Erik_29 wrote:

Well excuse me Mr know it all. I'm a little to busy running my own business to spend 10 hrs a day studying and playing long games and not that I care what the 2700 players do but prove that none of them played blitz earlier in their career. I'd bet a fair amount of gm's played at least some blitz by the time they were 1600-1800. Not all of us aspire to be titled or have the time to even try and different things work for different people depending on their time and chess goals. For you to say only one way works for every single person and anything else in completely wrong is just plain ignorant. I shared what's currently helping me because MAYBE it might give the OP some kind of help, not to have a narrow minded pompous a$$ ridicule me. Now if you'll excuse me I'm guna go work on my chess the" wrong" way.

Warbringer33 wrote:

Erik_29 wrote:

 

It really depends on how long you've been playing as to whether or not blitz is good or bad. If you just learned how the horsey moves last month I would say stay away from all speed chess. If you have a fair amount of knowledge and understand the difference between standard and blitz chess, then blitz can help you increase calculating speed and help you spot tactics more often in longer games. This is assuming you play a lot of the same positions in both time controls which is IMO a good way to memorize patterns, and I'm referring to 10/0 games any shorter than that is to fast for me given my current chess knowledge.

 

 

Omg...the 2700's didn't play blitz when they were rated 1500 like us. How can you possibly make that analogy? Unbelievable...

Sure, there are beneficial things in playing blitz when you start getting proficient in chess. Proficient is like 2000. Basically, 99% of us aren't proficient, have significant gaps in our skills and theoretical understandings, have terrible tactical vision, and don't belong doing anything other than studying, playing long games (like 30/30 and longer), and analyzing them obsessively. 

So basically, you acknowledge that you're playing fast chess because you simply don't have the time or desire to play 2-6 hour games and study. The OP didn't ask "how do you get good at chess on a limited schedule?" - He asked how you get good at chess PERIOD. Just because you're a deadbeat businessman and have limited time, doesn't mean that the way you play chess is a legitimate way to improve. Blitz chess is not a path to improvement. 

Warbringer33
krzysztof7 wrote:

Oh I tatally agree with that I think you must be good at all kinds of chess. :) 

 

You need to play standard games Bug I don't think online chess matters you need to play in FIDE or USCF rating tournaments.

Blitz is just practice.

Indeed - Blitz can be used to practice several things and it builds intuition. That said, the guys that make these threads every day always play almost entirely blitz/bullet which is why so many of us make it clear to them that they need to change their playing habits. 

I play 60/5, 45/45, 30/30, and 3/2 chess. Of course, I limit my blitz play tremendously in favor of playing the longer time controls and studying. So, yes...there are things I might get out of 3/2 that will compliment my game nice but only because I play so much long chess online and OTB, too.

Erik_29

Whatever you say you obviously know everything and nobody will convince you otherwise. Yep I'm a deadbeat warbringer..... a deadbeat with a nice house on 43 acres, 2 cars, 2 trucks, 6 four wheelers, a pond, and lots of other goodies. None of that was inherited or given to me, all earned from hard work and dedication. Not to bad for a 29 year old deadbeat that came from absolutely nothing😁. Peace✌

Warbringer33
Erik_29 wrote:

Whatever you say you obviously know everything and nobody will convince you otherwise. Yep I'm a deadbeat warbringer..... a deadbeat with a nice house on 43 acres, 2 cars, 2 trucks, 6 four wheelers, a pond, and lots of other goodies. None of that was inherited or given to me, all earned from hard work and dedication. Not to bad for a 29 year old deadbeat that came from absolutely nothing😁. Peace✌

Omg...there's nothing more transparent and pathetic than someone justifying their existence in material weight over the internet. Grow up and worry about impressing people who actually care about you. 

As for "Whatever you say..." - It's not what I say. People have been playing chess for a few years. It's not a new game. People know what does and doesn't help players improve. There's an established norm. Playing lots of blitz chess when you're rated ~1500, and never playing a game longer than 15+10, is not it.

And yes: Peace be with you. 

X_PLAYER_J_X
Warbringer33 wrote:
It's not what I say. People have been playing chess for a few years. It's not a new game. People know what does and doesn't help players improve. There's an established norm.

LIKE A BOSS!

Spiritbro77

"How do I be a good chess player".... Hmmmm

 

I would suggest joining Chess.com and spending a lot of time with the Tactics Trainer. Lucas Chess is free and has a good set of Tactics puzzles as well.

blackstarxxx

Pratice Pratice Pratice it worked for me

GrandChampion2

Thank you guys. I just have a question for all of you that say blitz is not good and the rating doesn't matter. I always try challenging those FMs, NMs, Ims, and GMs, but I am always declined. I'm pretty sure the main cause of that is my blitz rating right?

X_PLAYER_J_X
GrandChampion2 wrote:

Thank you guys. I just have a question for all of you that say blitz is not good and the rating doesn't matter. I always try challenging those FMs, NMs, Ims, and GMs, but I am always declined. I'm pretty sure the main cause of that is my blitz rating right?

Usually they challenge players in there own Ranking Range. It is becuase they do not get a lot of points from facing people with low rankings.

GrandChampion2

And thank you guys for your help. I'm almost rated 1300 now in 10 minute games

Warbringer33
GrandChampion2 wrote:

And thank you guys for your help. I'm almost rated 1300 now in 10 minute games

Even though the whole thread told you to stop playing blitz? Seems odd to ask for help, get advice, not follow it, and then thank the group for the advice you didn't follow.