Is intelligence directly related towards skill in chess?

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Vanessa_Martinez
ludrah wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

ludrah

Just drop it already, we already know that one guys who said that was wrong. This claim is still a theory but one that I do think is true to an extent.

The first sentence does not gramtically make sense and I am thus unable to decipher it. Specifically, what you mean with the word "that" (blue) is unclear.

ok so you want to get technical? really, lets stay focused not on what some weirdo said about me but about what I first posted and that was is intelligence and chess skill related directly.

Vanessa_Martinez
Seraphimity wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:

The OP's initial statement totally answers itself.  Of course intellegence is going to help you with chess in this reality or the other.  But shear ability to memorize opening lines is not going to gaurntee tactical accumen or the ability to read your advesary.  Ego has alot to do with Chess.  Preparation.  Intellegence and IQ are going to give you a clear edge.  So is intuition.  I don't see intuition as being part of IQ.  I believe some can wield reality and some are just a part of others reality.  It is a competely subjective analysis.  You need brains and to some degree an ability to play to your opponent.  

whats your IQ level?

haha, not very high.  My emotional quotient has served me well though.  Why do you ask?

Because im looking at your rating and I was thinking the same thing. Someone like you is lower rated than me because of IQ.

Vanessa_Martinez
ludrah wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
ludrah wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

ludrah

Just drop it already, we already know that one guys who said that was wrong. This claim is still a theory but one that I do think is true to an extent.

The first sentence does not gramtically make sense and I am thus unable to decipher it. Specifically, what you mean with the word "that" (blue) is unclear.

ok so you want to get technical? really, lets stay focused not on what some weirdo said about me but about what I first posted and that was is intelligence and chess skill related directly.

Actually, I just want to understand your previous post.

like how? its int he comments history, he posted about me and laws of physics and restrictions and I brought up concious theor then he left, then you came along that should just about explain that.

Vanessa_Martinez
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:

The OP's initial statement totally answers itself.  Of course intellegence is going to help you with chess in this reality or the other.  But shear ability to memorize opening lines is not going to gaurntee tactical accumen or the ability to read your advesary.  Ego has alot to do with Chess.  Preparation.  Intellegence and IQ are going to give you a clear edge.  So is intuition.  I don't see intuition as being part of IQ.  I believe some can wield reality and some are just a part of others reality.  It is a competely subjective analysis.  You need brains and to some degree an ability to play to your opponent.  

whats your IQ level?

haha, not very high.  My emotional quotient has served me well though.  Why do you ask?

Because im looking at your rating and I was thinking the same thing. Someone like you is lower rated than me because of IQ.

But this only involveing me and you, this brings up the fact of is IQ apart from chess skill?

Seraphimity
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:

The OP's initial statement totally answers itself.  Of course intellegence is going to help you with chess in this reality or the other.  But shear ability to memorize opening lines is not going to gaurntee tactical accumen or the ability to read your advesary.  Ego has alot to do with Chess.  Preparation.  Intellegence and IQ are going to give you a clear edge.  So is intuition.  I don't see intuition as being part of IQ.  I believe some can wield reality and some are just a part of others reality.  It is a competely subjective analysis.  You need brains and to some degree an ability to play to your opponent.  

whats your IQ level?

haha, not very high.  My emotional quotient has served me well though.  Why do you ask?

Because im looking at your rating and I was thinking the same thing. Someone like you is lower rated than me because of IQ.

Which makes you pretty stupid.  Your statement that someones chess rating is a clear indicator of IQ to me shows that you not only young but also insecure.  My rating could indicate I have not played chess very long, or that I often play for fun and after have a beer.  I may not take chess seriously enough to study it.  So many factors.  

Zalvager

Above average intelligence helps you to progress faster in chess of course, but almost anybody who starts at age 5-6 can master the art of chess. 

Vanessa_Martinez

Ya but my topic is is IQ and chess skill related and by survaying a few I can clearly see the answer. 

Vanessa_Martinez

Then there are a few cases where someone is really good at chess but not good at other things like cognitive responses or functions.

Seraphimity
ludrah wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
ludrah wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
ludrah wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

ludrah

Just drop it already, we already know that one guys who said that was wrong. This claim is still a theory but one that I do think is true to an extent.

The first sentence does not gramtically make sense and I am thus unable to decipher it. Specifically, what you mean with the word "that" (blue) is unclear.

ok so you want to get technical? really, lets stay focused not on what some weirdo said about me but about what I first posted and that was is intelligence and chess skill related directly.

Actually, I just want to understand your previous post.

like how? its int he comments history, he posted about me and laws of physics and restrictions and I brought up concious theor then he left, then you came along that should just about explain that.

No. I still don't know what of what he said is wrong.

Someone of your obvious intellect might have looked up previous thread where this topic has come up quite often.  I'm often considered to be pretty bright by others and thought I had made a good attempt at contributing to you question but you still beg the initial question.  What kind of answer are you looking or what question are you really trying to ask.  Are you so enamoured with your own Chess Rating that you feel by asking this question it gaurntee's you a feeling being better then those rated less.  It would seem you are looking to be told, yes IQ makes your chess game better.  My, wow aren't you the smart one.  Would that make you feel better?  some oooohhhhs and ahhhhs!?

Vanessa_Martinez
Seraphimity wrote:
 

Which makes you pretty stupid.  Your statement that someones chess rating is a clear indicator of IQ...

Ok, I'm still a senior in high school taking 2 advance college classes I school top of my classes last year in the nation math skills and english skill, and I have achieve many academic scholar awards along with accomedations. I have an IQ score of 140, so does that mean im already good at chess?

Vanessa_Martinez

If so why is it some people at my school can beat me over and over and there not as smart as me? this is where I got my question of is IQ related towards skill in chess directly or is it some other facter.

Vanessa_Martinez

There but the overall concensus and public opinion I have gotten is that it depend on time spent play and what age that person learned chess. IQ boost  learning speed but doesnt just come off as knowldge in the subject.

Seraphimity
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:
 

Which makes you pretty stupid.  Your statement that someones chess rating is a clear indicator of IQ...

Ok, I'm still a senior in high school taking 2 advance college classes I school top of my classes last year in the nation math skills and english skill, and I have achieve many academic scholar awards along with accomedations. I have an IQ score of 140, so does that mean im already good at chess?

Judging from you recent games you are mostly average with chess.  You play opponents rated 1700 or less or play the computer which quite easy to beat.  It seems you are above average in IQ.  So maybe that is a good answer to you question?  Chess is alot about amount of time played and type of study.. reason's for playing.  It's no brainer the good smarts are going to help your game.  But no, it is not the Prime Factor.  

Yes, Ludrah sorry quoted wrong person.

Zalvager
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

If so why is it some people at my school can beat me over and over and there not as smart as me? this is where I got my question of is IQ related towards skill in chess directly or is it some other facter.

Because you are not skilled enough? It's that simple. Your intelligence does influence how fast you learn chess, however. In fact, your intelligence influences how fast you learn anything. 

Vanessa_Martinez
Seraphimity wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
Seraphimity wrote:
 

Which makes you pretty stupid.  Your statement that someones chess rating is a clear indicator of IQ...

Ok, I'm still a senior in high school taking 2 advance college classes I school top of my classes last year in the nation math skills and english skill, and I have achieve many academic scholar awards along with accomedations. I have an IQ score of 140, so does that mean im already good at chess?

Judging from you recent games you are mostly average with chess.  You play opponents rated 1700 or less or play the computer which quite easy to beat.  It seems you are above average in IQ.  So maybe that is a good answer to you question?  Chess is alot about amount of time played and type of study.. reason's for playing.  It's no brainer the good smarts are going to help your game.  But no, it is not the Prime Factor.  

Yes, Ludrah sorry quoted wrong person.

I'm sorry I play at night when I get back from do my stuff so I don't get the chance to face top rated people. Quite honestly the computers are always online so whatever.

Vanessa_Martinez

Playing the computers are a good way to learn.

Vanessa_Martinez
Zalvager wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

If so why is it some people at my school can beat me over and over and there not as smart as me? this is where I got my question of is IQ related towards skill in chess directly or is it some other facter.

Because you are not skilled enough? It's that simple. Your intelligence does influence how fast you learn chess, however. In fact, your intelligence influences how fast you learn anything. 

So how would you sum it all up in one easy sentence?

owlyboly
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

If so why is it some people at my school can beat me over and over and there not as smart as me? this is where I got my question of is IQ related towards skill in chess directly or is it some other facter.

Some other factor .

Zalvager
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:
Zalvager wrote:
Vanessa_Martinez wrote:

If so why is it some people at my school can beat me over and over and there not as smart as me? this is where I got my question of is IQ related towards skill in chess directly or is it some other facter.

Because you are not skilled enough? It's that simple. Your intelligence does influence how fast you learn chess, however. In fact, your intelligence influences how fast you learn anything. 

So how would you sum it all up in one easy sentence?

That's a challenge, but I'll give it a try: "Chess and intelligence are only vaguely related to each other." 

Seraphimity

Live Chess - Blitz

2021

try playing longer times agianst better players.  You have no record for anything over 5 minutes.  Blitz chess is alot of tricks, traps and beating the clock.  I mean come on you are a bright girl.  You are very lucky to have so many gifts.  Average opponent 1500 in 5 minute chess.... Im sorry but that does not make you smart or good at chess.  

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