No it's NOT enough already.
Josh Waitzkin's resignation from competitive chess
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Oct 1, 2010
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#83
AnthonyCG wrote:
I always laugh at people that think they know about GM chess because they read some book about Kasparov or they actually understood that one move in a Carlsen game. It's sad. Most of the bs in this thread could only be fathomed by someone that actually knew the guy. How could you possibly know how much "drive" someone has if you don't even know them? Statistics? Such a claim says much about a person...
This is the type of arrogant, shovanistic people that he wanted to avoid - people that think chess makes them intelligent when in reality it does no such thing. 1.e4 and now I can judge GM play and I have a PhD...
It's no different than the washed up junior varsity baseball player that curses at all the pro players on tv. It's funny for a while but it gets old fast.
Great post!
"Attacking Chess" was the second chess book I read, after "Bobby Fischer Teaches Chess". Fantastic beginner book that teaches chess and tells his story at the same time.
His Attacking Chess and Art of Learning courses on ChessMaster are worth the low cost of that software by themselves, not to mention all of the other features the game has. The money he's made in that venue is well earned in my opinion.
I wish he still played chess and I hope he decides to make a comeback at some point, on his own terms.
Oct 1, 2010
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#85
A week ago, on playchess.com, I saw someone claiming to be him with the playchess ID: TheKillers. He didn't have the IM attached to his name, but I was thinking why would someone claim to be him, of all chess players? Interesting
Quitting chess gets you nowhere. I play at my local club have been for 4 years now. I really struggled at first I lost about 10 games in a row, I then won my first game. My rating was 1100 elo, I now have a rating of around 1450 I really want to get into the top 10 in the club and then hopefully the top 5 (about 2200-2300), but I find it a real struggle, the one thing I know however that won't get me up to that level would be to quit. Plus as a chess player I think it's important to accept defeat, how else are we going to improve.
tonymtbird wrote:
we americans got lucky with Fischer.. Americans just don't care about chess enough to have a serious world champion contender.
gata Kamsky was in the world championship this year
OmarCayenne wrote:
pskogli wrote:
So if he was (is) that talented and worked that hard, why did he only reach the IM level?
Because (as I believed I was implying) it takes great talent and a massive amount of work even to reach "only" the IM level.
thats what you say, i think it only implys massive amount of work, wich in itself is a talent because most people are to lazy but besides that i dont believe it takes talent.
also i dont believe a bad coach can kill his love for the game, he is a smart man if he does thai chi, why wouldnt he just take a different coach. seems to me he didnt love that game so much after all. dont get me wrong i still respect ims but im pretty sure you dont need talent for it, just love for the game and commitment...
rrrttt wrote:
tonymtbird wrote:
we americans got lucky with Fischer.. Americans just don't care about chess enough to have a serious world champion contender.
gata Kamsky was in the world championship this year
Actually, he was in the Candidates match. If he'd won, he would have faced Anand next year for the World Championship.
It's true, America as a whole doesn't give a rip about chess. Waitzkin got tagged as a "young Fischer" because people who love chess wish for another Bobby Fischer. I can't see anyone coming along to do what Fischer did again.
Webhead wrote:
rrrttt wrote:
tonymtbird wrote:
we americans got lucky with Fischer.. Americans just don't care about chess enough to have a serious world champion contender.
gata Kamsky was in the world championship this year
Actually, he was in the Candidates match. If he'd won, he would have faced Anand next year for the World Championship.
It's true, America as a whole doesn't give a rip about chess. Waitzkin got tagged as a "young Fischer" because people who love chess wish for another Bobby Fischer. I can't see anyone coming along to do what Fischer did again.
yeah he is like maradonna, one of a kind that only comes once in every century... at most
According to one of his latest chessmaster seminars,he worked systematically with Razuvaev later on,a world class trainer who insisted that he could integrate the sensible style of Karpov, through following Kasparov's strategy against the former,like in a tai-chi ritual as Waitzkin inspired suggests.However,i harldy know anything more enlighting concerning his training adventure...
If he'd wanted to stick with it, he would have. He didn't. He wasn't America's next great hope anyway. He reached the level he did and got stuck, unlike Fischer. Fischer was a natural and a phenomenally hard worker. If he was weak in something, he'd work on it until it was no longer a weakness.
its sad to hear josh quitting the love of the game. i appreciated his teachings at chessmaster grand edition. im also sad dvoretskycould be the cause. i am a reader of dvoretsky endgame manual, i also appreciated his methods of teaching chessi would not welcome the comparison o f the two each has a different way of approach to teaching..
Talent is the word losers use to avoid take responsibility. In chess there is no talent, like Polgar, the father of the 3 sisters, demonstrated clearly, you just take a kid, teach him/her the game, instill passion, and give him a good coach, and he/she will become a GM or IM without any magical talent.
the only one not to become a gm, left chess by choice to pursue other interests. if you look at her games it's clear she was well on the way to becoming GM.
I think he simply realized there was more to life than chess. Josh's life will be much happier than Fischer's.
im sad to knowjosh waitkin resignation from chess
Aug 20, 2011
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#97
I think the movie Searching for Bobby Fischer is awesome, and would love to se these chessmaster vids.
About him stopping playing chess, i dont really know. I guess thats his choice, and he lives the way he wanna live :)
Aug 20, 2011
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#98
AnthonyCG wrote:
daud2012 wrote:
pskogli wrote:
So if he was (is) that talented and worked that hard, why did he only reach the IM level?
Talent is the word losers use to avoid take responsibility. In chess there is no talent, like Polgar, the father of the 3 sisters, demonstrated clearly, you just take a kid, teach him/her the game, instill passion, and give him a good coach, and he/she will become a GM or IM without any magical talent.
The "instill passion" part, seems pretty magical
Aug 20, 2011
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#99
Well, Lazslo Polgar kind of showed that it could be done on demand. Although I doubt it's healthy for the personal development of the child.
Ok, tell these people to hire Josh Waitzkin's dad for publicity. Enough already.