My coach does not like Jeremy Silman... - Chess Forums - Page 34

DragonSavage · 2014-01-13T10:13:43-08:00

Recently, I purchased two books written by Silman: The Amateur's Mind and Silman's Complete Endgame Course. So far I really enjoy the simplicity and the arrangement of the chapters based on rating strength, especially in the endgame book. But for some strange reason, my coach; a Candida

SmyslovFan

Jul 17, 2018

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#661

darkunorthodox88 wrote:

your coach knows if every chess book out there were as good as silman's he would be out of a job. Most coaches have conflicting interests when it comes to feeding you good chess material. Give them too much, and you are almost redundant, give them too little, and they may go elsewhere to someone a little more willing to share secrets of the craft.

I know of very, very few (perhaps one or two) players over 2200 strength who credit Silman for their mastery.

kindaspongey

Jul 17, 2018

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#662

SmyslovFan wrote:

{NM] darkunorthodox88 wrote:

your coach knows if every chess book out there were as good as silman's he would be out of a job. Most coaches have conflicting interests when it comes to feeding you good chess material. Give them too much, and you are almost redundant, give them too little, and they may go elsewhere to someone a little more willing to share secrets of the craft.

I know of very, very few (perhaps one or two) players over 2200 strength who credit Silman for their mastery.

Who claims that Silman will take a player to 2200 and/or mastery?

RoobieRoo

Jul 17, 2018

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#663

hey sup spongebobs?

SmyslovFan

Jul 17, 2018

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#664

kindaspongey wrote:

SmyslovFan wrote:

{NM] darkunorthodox88 wrote:

your coach knows if every chess book out there were as good as silman's he would be out of a job. Most coaches have conflicting interests when it comes to feeding you good chess material. Give them too much, and you are almost redundant, give them too little, and they may go elsewhere to someone a little more willing to share secrets of the craft.

I know of very, very few (perhaps one or two) players over 2200 strength who credit Silman for their mastery.

Who claims that Silman will take a player to 2200 and/or mastery?

Well, Silman does. His endgame book has a section specifically for players rated 1800-+2100, and then section 8 of that book is specifically for master-class players.

kindaspongey

Jul 17, 2018

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#665

SmyslovFan wrote:

kindaspongey wrote:

SmyslovFan wrote:

{NM] darkunorthodox88 wrote:

your coach knows if every chess book out there were as good as silman's he would be out of a job. Most coaches have conflicting interests when it comes to feeding you good chess material. Give them too much, and you are almost redundant, give them too little, and they may go elsewhere to someone a little more willing to share secrets of the craft.

I know of very, very few (perhaps one or two) players over 2200 strength who credit Silman for their mastery.

Who claims that Silman will take a player to 2200 and/or mastery?

Well, Silman does. His endgame book has a section specifically for players rated 1800-+2100, and then section 8 of that book is specifically for master-class players.

Do you have anything specific to rule out the possibility that IM Silman was simply setting out to offer help to 1800-2100 players and master-class players?

SmyslovFan

Jul 17, 2018

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#666

Do you have anything more than pointed questions, or do you have an actual point you are trying to make?

SmyslovFan

Jul 17, 2018

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#667

Btw, elsewhere in the book he talks about helping players all the way up to the +2400 rating range.

kindaspongey

Jul 17, 2018

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#668

SmyslovFan wrote:

Do you have anything more than pointed questions, or do you have an actual point you are trying to make?

For now, I do not have any interest in involvement in anything beyond my questions and your reactions as help for people to come to sensible conclusions.

NM darkunorthodox88

Jul 17, 2018

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#669

SmyslovFan wrote:

Btw, elsewhere in the book he talks about helping players all the way up to the +2400 rating range.

yeah,... in the endgame! besides what silman teaches at the end of the book is how to apply your previous endgame knowledge to apply it to positions similar but not identical to ones covered in theory

kindaspongey

Jul 17, 2018

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#670

kindaspongey wrote:

SmyslovFan wrote:

kindaspongey wrote:

SmyslovFan wrote:

{NM] darkunorthodox88 wrote:

your coach knows if every chess book out there were as good as silman's he would be out of a job. Most coaches have conflicting interests when it comes to feeding you good chess material. Give them too much, and you are almost redundant, give them too little, and they may go elsewhere to someone a little more willing to share secrets of the craft.

I know of very, very few (perhaps one or two) players over 2200 strength who credit Silman for their mastery.

Who claims that Silman will take a player to 2200 and/or mastery?

Well, Silman does. His endgame book has a section specifically for players rated 1800-+2100, and then section 8 of that book is specifically for master-class players.

Do you have anything specific to rule out the possibility that IM Silman was simply setting out to offer help to 1800-2100 players and master-class players?

SmyslovFan wrote: "Btw, elsewhere in the book he talks about helping players all the way up to the +2400 rating range."

Can one offer help without claiming to take a player to 2200 and/or mastery?

NM darkunorthodox88

Jul 17, 2018

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#671

kindaspongey wrote:

SmyslovFan wrote:

kindaspongey wrote:

SmyslovFan wrote:

{NM] darkunorthodox88 wrote:

your coach knows if every chess book out there were as good as silman's he would be out of a job. Most coaches have conflicting interests when it comes to feeding you good chess material. Give them too much, and you are almost redundant, give them too little, and they may go elsewhere to someone a little more willing to share secrets of the craft.

I know of very, very few (perhaps one or two) players over 2200 strength who credit Silman for their mastery.

Who claims that Silman will take a player to 2200 and/or mastery?

Well, Silman does. His endgame book has a section specifically for players rated 1800-+2100, and then section 8 of that book is specifically for master-class players.

Do you have anything specific to rule out the possibility that IM Silman was simply setting out to offer help to 1800-2100 players and master-class players?

SmyslovFan wrote: "Btw, elsewhere in the book he talks about helping players all the way up to the +2400 rating range."

Can one offer help without claiming to take a player to 2200 and/or mastery?

i dont think silman claims he will take you there. he is merely pointing to what is appropiate knowledge at each stage to know. and i agree that after the 2000 stage in his book, the quality declines, but nobody recommends silman's endgame guide for experts and masters unless you were like me, and had ineadquate knowledge ( i reached 2100 without even knowing about key squares in king and pawn vs king endgame, i started learning from his book almost immediately after the basic checkmate chapters).

Chetfield_Parmar

Oct 12, 2018

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#672

May be by reading silmans book u do not need chess coach

RookPFeynman

Mar 25, 2019

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#673

I would venture to say that your coach cannot think as Master Silman does which would explain his distaste to him. I have read all of his books including the newer 2015 book "How to Play Chess" and IM Silman never disappoints. I have gotten better simply by his approach to the game without question. BTW IM Silman makes the game fun and challenging. Does you coach do this?

Nickalispicalis71

Mar 25, 2019

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#674

How can one not love Jeremy Silman when he has the 100% endorsement of the Backyard Professor?

nighteyes1234

Mar 25, 2019

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#675

Nickalispicalis71 wrote:

How can one not love Jeremy Silman when he has the 100% endorsement of the Backyard Professor?

All that means is Silman is quickly on his way out and now who gets the market for win now and win quick chessers? Who wants a lot of vocal 1400-1600s to boast about them as an author, yet these players are maxed out? Look at the thread and see how many vowing to buy all your books no matter the quality. So now who will take over the market for the egosticial? Bartholomew? ChessNetwork? BackyardProfessor?

Dont be surprised to see more butt-kissing as the endorsement of Silman will be a key moment in the sphere of every self-important center of the universe kid chesser out there.

Coffee_Player

Mar 25, 2019

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#676

Who's "BackyardProfessor"?

kindaspongey

Mar 25, 2019

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#677

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/general/the-backyard-professor

kindaspongey

Mar 25, 2019

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#678

"... [Silman] would go on to write a series of excellent books on chess strategy. …" - GM Joel Benjamin (2018), writing about a 1979 encounter with Silman

Coffee_Player

Mar 25, 2019

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#679

@kindaspongey - thanks!

RoobieRoo

Mar 28, 2019

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#680

There is no help like self help.