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Dec 1, 2012
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SmyslovFan wrote:
If you're rated U1600 here, there's no reason to resign a live game. You can learn a great deal by playing these positions out and you will occasionally swindle a game.
you can learn a great deal about how to look like a fool.
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Dec 1, 2012
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#25
landwehr wrote:
DnlKgn wrote:
Now i'm confused--- what's the point of your article if you are not a supporter of it's contend yourself?
I will never resign from chess .com was my point.
"my point" being used loosely.
Dec 1, 2012
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#26
landwehr wrote:
Aussies have always been smart asses. The whole point I contend for is that anyone who does not resign an overwhelmingly lost position has not learnt the first thing from such games....RESIGN ! In fact from such positions that is the only thing they could possibly learn.
now it's so clear.
Oh... you meant the site, not a game^^ sry... Well if it's an absolutly overwelming situation... i don't see why not... but it wasen't clear that you meant absolutly overwelming...
Conventional requirements as to social behavior.
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That is the supreme value of history,the study of it guarantees against repeating it.
Dec 1, 2012
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#33
I definitely think it is personal preference. I agree that Ina tournament, one needs to looks to resign when the situation is futile. I have been in one tournament form18 months. If everyone one played to the end, we would reach grid lock. A tournament is not the place to drag a game out to practice end game skills. There are plenty of opportunities outside of tournaments.
The stronger you are at chess, the more you will understand it is appropriate to resign in many circumstances and it is not classy at all to play on in a completely lost position.
I have had very good players, expert and above resign to me just because I got a little better of it in an opening in a 15 minute per player game. Why did they resign?--because they were interested in improving their chess rather than trying to obtain a temporary rating.
Perhaps a group based on commitment to resign as its prerequisite for membership would be best for such starry players. For me, (I speak for myself alone), I'm a north west suburban housewife, mother, daughter, sister, friend, registered nurse, musica, paper toler, quilt n sewer, computer thingo ie ordinary nobody who plays chess online in lieu of access to playing face to face. My two teaching mentors' decades ago primary rule was never resign : learn, think, work with the fewer/lesser tools, Think! Of course, I'm a player of much lower rating, with less available time to be online (like many of us, life's little hiccups). I simply wish to play. And learn. I take on board y'all's comments re tournaments' participation - your insights again help me learn. Your discussions are rarefied topics for very consistently successful players - spare some reflection with your writings. The thing is, there is no chess rule indicating mandatory resignation conditions. Thank you for a highly interesting ongoing read, annie.
Dec 1, 2012
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#36
landwehr wrote:
Yes, I can see what you are driving at with the need for end game practice and blunders do occur when players are material ahead, even a queen. Maybe you can drag out a lost position on the internet which would be ridiculous otb play. Have you thought that playing on, especially on the internet chess, when you have a serious material disadvantage does not respect the ability of your opponent. I am often flabbergasted by players who may only have a king against numerous pieces but insist on being checkmated and don't resign. I think in this situation they show that they have not learnt a basic lesson in chess etiquette. I know they have every right to play until mated. But I live in hope of them seeing the light!
All this talk about respect for players ability is ridiculous, just play the game and dont complain. If you have a huge material advantage, CHECKMATE them! Dont whine about it
Ye but it gets a bit shitty when it runs away..either being torn apart or even when you tear apart..The best is in the balance..The chase!
When your tearing someone apart..you would laugh at them: No respect there!
you would resign out of respect so your opponent could enjoy a game with a challenge.
Dec 1, 2012
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#38
Since I'm way too lazy to read that entire OP, I'll just make a stupid comment:
<Beavis & Butthead laugh> "You said 'down under'...heh heh...
Dec 1, 2012
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#39
For a couple of months earlier this year, I decided to play every game right to the end (all my games are turn-base). It had nothing to do with a lack of respect. My thought was to learn more of the end game, especially if I was a piece or two down. I also thought that at levels below 1600, "Gimmes" should not be expected.
Against the lower rated players, I thought my opponents needed to demonstrate their wins. In more than a few instances, they were inaccurate and I snatched victory from the jaws of defeat.
Against the higher rated players, I was able to tenaciously defend some lost positions and recieved compliments from the opponents. Some of them got lazy and gave a lost game back to me. After a while, I got bored of this strategy against higher rated players and returned to resigning hopeless positions.
Interestingly, more than a few players sent me comments of frustation on being forced to demonstrate the win. For myself, I have no problem playing to the end and don't begrudge my opponent's right to do so. (I'm presently one move away from checkmating a lone king with a Queen and Bishop).
However, I do agree that in tournaments, you should be respectful of other pairings and your impact on the duration of the rounds.
By the way, when I was playing my games to the end, I did not drag the games out with the time available. Unless I'm travelling, I always respond within twelve hours. My average time per move is 90 minutes, which perhaps explains why I have not been progressing, but regressing.
Dec 1, 2012
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#40
My personal pet peeve isn't whether a player resigns, but if, when they are dead lost they stop moving in a timely manner. This is especially true in correspondence games.
Don't play the death gambit whereby you try to win by hoping your opponent will die of boredom or other natural causes before they checkmate you.
If you're rated U1600 here, there's no reason to resign a live game. You can learn a great deal by playing these positions out and you will occasionally swindle a game.
If you are rated +2000 OTB, you already should know when to resign and probably aren't reading this thread to gain advice.
Jees! Resign in a live game..I'de struggle to find the button, the speed some dudes play..Cigarette in one hand drink in the other.