Top 30 chess players of all time

Sort:
fabelhaft
DENVERHIGH wrote:

So there wasn't any women that could have made that list? That are dead?

 


What woman would that be? Only Menchik could come in question and she was never comparable to the best players of her time. She used to score 100% in the Women's World Championship but could have results like these when invited to top events:

http://www.worldchesslinks.net/ezqa39.html

JMB2010

nick_p12 -

Anand would qualify as active, and I said why I don't rank active players. Maybe one day I'll do a list with the top active players.

Kittysafe

Just curious why is Judit Polgar not on the list?

Quachro

you guys all fail, it's OBVIOUSLY nakumura or carlsen, there the highest and the best, it's not just there ratings

Kittysafe
ReasonableDoubt wrote:
Kittysafe wrote:

Just curious why is Judit Polgar not on the list?


Judit Polgar is not on the list because she is not that strong a player when compared to the strongest chess players WITHOUT sexism.


Thank you .

JMB2010

Nakamura and Carlsen are active.

fabelhaft
Kittysafe wrote:
ReasonableDoubt wrote:
Kittysafe wrote:

Just curious why is Judit Polgar not on the list?


Judit Polgar is not on the list because she is not that strong a player when compared to the strongest chess players WITHOUT sexism.


Thank you .


She's not on the list for the same reason as many other mentioned players like Anand, Carlsen, etc, i.e. still active players aren't included. I'd never include Polgar among the 30 greatest players ever anyway. Greats like Maroczy and Zukertort may both have been the best player in the world at some occasion and are still not on the list, while Polgar never has been close to that, as her results against Kasparov and Kramnik show. She's still a great player, of course, but top 30 isn't easy to reach.

raul72
thinkdeeplistengood wrote:

capablanca is low he lost only 39 games and played the top 40 of france simu.blind

did it parttime to !!!!


 Capablanca was known to be not interested in blindfold chess and gave very few blindfold simuls. I know he gave no blindfold simuls that approached 40 games---not even close.

Where did you get your information

raul72
thinkdeeplistengood wrote:

capablanca is low he lost only 39 games and played the top 40 of france simu.blind

did it parttime to !!!!


 Capablanca was known to be not interested in blindfold chess and gave very few blindfold simuls. I know he gave no blindfold simuls that approached 40 games---not even close.

Where did you get your information

KREMLINIZER42

Id move tal, korchnoi and petrosian into the top 10

The_Aggressive_Bee

I am really happy to see Karpov as #2.  Being sandwiched between Fischer and Kasparov he isn't recognized as often as he should be.  He is a really great player and I really enjoy alot of his games (especially when I'm the one he's playing)!

Please enjoy and let me know what you think of the game!  

rishabhr2002

Some people I think are missing: Vishwanathan Anand, Aaron Nimsovitch, maybe Topalov, and Steinitz, Morphy,  and Carlsen.

ZarkoUcinci

about petrosian and your comentary (i am not relying in data, just things i read and remember so correct me if i am wrong!!!)

Petrosian was know for his draws. BUT Petrosian has less draws than many other known players.  i would dare to say, even related to some known attacking players. there is a russian guy here on chess.com that is pretty good with numbers. i should check it there if i find him

fabelhaft

"Keres 17 you must be kidding me"

Is it supposed to be too high or too low?

Robert_New_Alekhine

Bronstein drew a match for the world title. Schlecter drew a match for the world title.

Senior-Lazarus_Long
hankm wrote:

I'm glad that Fischer didn't make the number one spot on your list. He was a strong player, but he didn't play long enough to really prove himself.

I don't think Tal should be quite that high on your list. I've always thought he seemed like a one-dimensional player. He was good at what he did, but that's about it. His reign as world champion was very brief, and Botvinnik, whom he defeated for the title, quickly regained it.

Also, I feel like Petrosian should be much higher on the list. He had an very unique style, not quite like any other chess player in history. All in all, he was incredibly hard to beat ("In those years, it was easier to win the Soviet Championship than a game against 'Iron Tigran'." — Lev Polugaevsky). He was also quite versatile, and not afraid of sharp positions, even if he didn't perfer them. Spassky found this out when he lost his first world championship match against Petrosian, and stated that, "It is to Petrosian's advantage that his opponents never know when he is suddenly going to play like Mikhail Tal."

1959-1972 isn't long enough?

fabelhaft

"1959-1972 isn't long enough?"

For the number one spot it is perhaps not long enough with a career of 13 years. Fischer won maybe 10 international events and nothing after winning the title the last of those years. Compare with for example Lasker's winning the title in 1894 and scoring top results also 30-40 years later or Kasparov's winning lots of title matches and dozens of super strong tournaments also a decade or two after winning the title.

Senior-Lazarus_Long
fabelhaft wrote:

"1959-1972 isn't long enough?"

For the number one spot it is perhaps not long enough with a career of 13 years. Fischer won maybe 10 international events and nothing after winning the title the last of those years. Compare with for example Lasker's winning the title in 1894 and scoring top results also 30-40 years later or Kasparov's winning lots of title matches and dozens of super strong tournaments also a decade or two after winning the title.

  • Winner of: every tournament and match in which he participated from December, 1962 through World Championship match 1972 with the exceptions of Capablanca Memorial, 1965, (2nd place - ½ point behind Smyslov), and Piatigorsky Cup, 1966, (2nd place - ½ point behind Spassky).
fabelhaft

"Winner of: every tournament and match in which he participated from December, 1962 through World Championship match 1972 with the exceptions of Capablanca Memorial, 1965, (2nd place - ½ point behind Smyslov), and Piatigorsky Cup, 1966, (2nd place - ½ point behind Spassky)"

And Lasker was winner of every tournament he participated in from S:t Petersburg 1895/96 up until Moscow 1925 with one exception. No one finished ahead of Kasparov in any event for a ten year period, without exceptions, etc, etc.

Senior-Lazarus_Long

Ok,but why would Fischer's stunning record disqualify him from considerstion.