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what would be the results of Lasker vs Carlsen

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dzikus wrote:

By analysing opponent's games he was able to learn his strongest and weakest sides and then make use of this findings during actual game. Lasker avoided positions where the opponent mastered and felt comfortable. Instead, he steered into areas where the opponent disliked and played inferior moves most frequently.


The problem is that Carlsen has no weaknesses and is comfortable in every position.

dzikus
Scottrf napisał:
dzikus wrote:

By analysing opponent's games he was able to learn his strongest and weakest sides and then make use of this findings during actual game. Lasker avoided positions where the opponent mastered and felt comfortable. Instead, he steered into areas where the opponent disliked and played inferior moves most frequently.


The problem is that Carlsen has no weaknesses and is comfortable in every position.

I think he is not as perfect in rook endgames as in the others. His recent losses all resulted from blunders in rook endgames

SebLeb0210

Yeah he isnt that good in rook endgames

fabelhaft
dzikus wrote:

I would expect Lasker to win the match.

I think Lasker is the only player that can compete with Kasparov as the greatest player ever, but it always surprises me when people expect great players from long ago to beat the best players today.

Carlsen's advantages would be many. He has studied the last 100 years of chess theory and the games of the last 100 years, is used to playing games with much shorter time controls, and to play endgames without long adjournments. He is also a chess professional together with the other top players today, that study chess with much more dedication than someone like Lasker, who was a mathematician and philosopher, that could go years between events.

If Lasker really would be expected to beat Carlsen just after looking at his games, that should mean that the difference in chess talent between the best players today and those a century ago would be gigantic. If players today, with all these advantages and with chess as their profession still would play worse chess than the top players of a hundred years ago it would mean that the chess level in practice has fallen quite a lot the last century.

discoweasel

I read the title of this thread fast and thought of LA Lakers v. Carlsen.  Now THAT would be interesting!

SebLeb0210

good awnsers :)

dzikus
fabelhaft napisał:

I think Lasker is the only player that can compete with Kasparov as the greatest player ever, but it always surprises me when people expect great players from long ago to beat the best players today.

Carlsen's advantages would be many. He has studied the last 100 years of chess theory and the games of the last 100 years, is used to playing games with much shorter time controls, and to play endgames without long adjournments. He is also a chess professional together with the other top players today, that study chess with much more dedication than someone like Lasker, who was a mathematician and philosopher, that could go years between events.

If Lasker really would be expected to beat Carlsen just after looking at his games, that should mean that the difference in chess talent between the best players today and those a century ago would be gigantic. If players today, with all these advantages and with chess as their profession still would play worse chess than the top players of a hundred years ago it would mean that the chess level in practice has fallen quite a lot the last century.

You are right, Lasker would also have to fill the century gap because chess improved much.

Thus I would like to re-phrase my original post: given a year to prepare by comprehending last 100 years of development (a bit of middlegame, most in endgame - he could roughly ignore the openings as he avoided forced lines with deadly traps) of chess and analysing Carlsen's games to determine his psychological posture - Lasker would win the match.

However, I think Magnus can follow Lasker and become a world champion for a very long time. He is probably the strongest contemporary player

SebLeb0210

the history did improve alot :)

kevsha77

Carlsen would win simply because of all of the advances, but Lasker along with many others of the past definitely made more of a contribution to the sport.And don't forget Kasparov! He has left quite an imprint as well.

skakmadurinn

I think Magnus would manage to win because Lasker died 72 years ago.

Irontiger

Well, there is not much suspense.

You really think the fat smoking grandfather has a chance against the mobster ?

(you're talking about boxing, right ?)

netzach

Worked alright for 'Serge Blanco'. Smile

Smoking aids concentration (for about 10-minutes)

SebLeb0210
netzach wrote:

Worked alright for 'Serge Blanco'. 

Smoking aids concentration (for about 10-minutes)

lol Laughing