Martin vs The world Analysis thread

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USAuPzlBxBob

Edited 2:16 pm EDT

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Consider...

   …        Bxc1
Raxc1     e5
 Red1   O-O-O
 Nb5      Qc6

… and we're still definitely breathing.  Had to get rid of the DSDB first!

matthew_b_rook

Ok but it seems like e5 helps Martin in that line compared to 0-0-0 since the knight ends up in a good spot on b5 or f5 and the rook wanted to go to d1 anyways

USAuPzlBxBob

Vote Bxc1.  We'll have 4 more days to work out the next move.

matthew_b_rook

Ok I vote Bxc1

USAuPzlBxBob

That's 2 for Bxc1, but we'll see what others want to do.

I'll be surprised if they keep with Qc7.

USAuPzlBxBob

Red highlights and White playing Bxf6+ before the Nd6 fork.  Get's the pieces pared down faster for White.

USAuPzlBxBob

No question about it, the board was bewildering for me, too.

Matt helped a lot because Rd1 ruled out taking the h2 pawn by the Queen since there would be a discovered check when the Knight moved to f3.

You never know where the next "find" from the World will come from.

Martin may blunder, still.  One man against many others.  The trouble is, I'm playing lines in my analysis that are too cautious because I can't count on him blundering.  He could easily overlook Rd1 and worry only about the Queen attack on his corner.  But we can't rely on that.

USAuPzlBxBob

To everyone, Bxc1 is our strongest move and quite frankly (if we want to stay alive) … our only move.

Just saying…

It's Moving Day, btw.

Bob

USAuPzlBxBob

Ry, you currently have 2 votes for Bxc1. (Bob, Matt; #428 & #429)

USAuPzlBxBob

Here's the drawback of e5 right now:

  …           e5
Nb5    O-O-O  (forced because Rd1 would be played)
Bc3+                (White is checking the King and attacking a7 simultaneously)

This is why I decided on Bxc1.  No matter what I tried I couldn't get a good outcome.

USAuPzlBxBob

For Nc6…

  …    Nc6
 Rd1

  •    …     O-O-O
    Bc3+
    • …       Kg8
      Nb5  Qc8       (Queen attack from Rd1)
      Nd6               (forks Queen and Rook; Knight is protected by Rook)
    •  …      Be7      (blocking the check)
      Nb5  Qc8       (Queen attack from Rd1)
      Nd6                (forks Queen and Rook; Knight is protected by Rook)
    •  …      Re7
      Nb5  Qc8       (Queen attack from Rd1)
      Nd6  Qc7
      Bc5    b6
      Bxf6  gxf6     (doubles pawns)
        e5   Nxe5     (White's LSDB is activated and White's Queen is very mobile)
      Qh3                (probably # upcoming; don't know exactly how)

 

This could be worked further, but the point is, White holds a commanding attack to a vulnerable Black King coupled with a cramped Black right corner.

USAuPzlBxBob

I'll start looking into Nc6 with castling on the right… who knows.

USAuPzlBxBob

Well, that didn't take long...

   …      Nc6
 Rd1    O-O
Nxc6  Qxc6
  e5                    Wins the DSDB for the price of a pawn.

Tja_05

e5 Be7. So.....?

ItsAPawndemonium

Guys time warning... if bxc1 is to be played better do it now.

USAuPzlBxBob

Have 24 hours.  Ry will get it in.

USAuPzlBxBob

Current Position (Black to Move)

Martin did not disappoint, and his move happens to be the only move and position I've been investigating since we last made our move.

There are two major continuations for us to immediately consider: O-O-O and e5.  Playing e5 is all about keeping his LSDB hemmed in so that he can't play e5, to then attack h7 once we castle long. But we don't have to play it immediately because if Martin were to play it, should we castle long immediately, he would then lose his Knight.

USAuPzlBxBob

Ry, it most definitely will be O-O-O.

But, our cramped position needs a lot of analysis after we play our move.  It may be in our best interest to spend a good portion of our 4 days looking ahead to see what the upcoming threats against us may be.  It's very tricky down around our back rank in the middle files, especially as Martin starts loading up the d-file with Rooks.  The one square I'm most worried about is c7, which his Knight can reach in just two moves, and get a double or triple fork on our major pieces.

Then another thing that scares me is — if we do play an e5 — is him somehow placing his Knight on d5 and then the only piece that could budge it would be our Knight.  With his Knight on d5 he could work everything around that Knight and it would be attacking dark squares while his remaining Drunken Bishop could be attacking light squares.

gyrados06

I vote 0-0-0

ItsAPawndemonium

I just want to say too that if e5, Nc2 will be threatening to trap the LSDB with Nb4, forcing a knight trade with a drunken bishop. So after Nc2 the LSDB needs to be saved somehow then the Queen can stop castling. Therefore I think 0-0-0 now is better.