Martin vs The world Analysis thread

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Tja_05

The mind games are here 😛

USAuPzlBxBob

And ry posts our move 15 minutes ago after my heartfelt post for him not to post 47 minutes ago.

There's no need to rush forward.  He could have waited.

Whose side is ry on?

Makes you wonder why Martin chose ry as the move maker.  Are they best friends?

What's going on?

gyrados06's question, in his post #487 says volumes, and his question was never answered directly by rychessmaster1.  ry did allude to having 4 votes for Nc6.  Who are they by name?

Yes, the mind games are here!

(makes it kinda fun, ironically)

When we win, it will be against all odds.

USAuPzlBxBob

Never thought I'd use this cliché here, but the silence is deafening.

Ry, explain yourself, and your motives.  

Have you tired of being the move maker?

(I could understand that.)

But there'd have to be someone to take your place.

Should I take this up with Martin on the Main Thread?

Sincerely yours,

USAuPzlBxBob

Tja_05

I think Ry may not have read post #496.... or he misread it.

ItsAPawndemonium

Ry did ask kxc6 with draw offer, and you did say yes. Maybe he didn't read what came after.

USAuPzlBxBob

Ry, I'm sorry, and I even thought, we get what we pay for.  You're doing this as a favor.

I just ran the analyses that I wanted to run, and we are Ok.  Too lengthy to post and I have to run to the dealership.  A draw came from the analyses.

USAuPzlBxBob

My only concern was using our time to the greatest advantage, and we're fine on time right now.

No harm; no foul.

(We all lead complex lives and nothing is ever perfect.)

Best,

Bob

ItsAPawndemonium

Going to the weak pawn side seems like a lost cause.

Hopefully I miscalculated... but anyway I won't be posting anytime soon so I wish you guys good luck and hopefully martin blunders and we wintongue.png

ItsAPawndemonium

Also note that after 7. Rxb7! if bishop goes to c6, then queen captures, recapture followed by bishop to c6 mate.

USAuPzlBxBob

I just got home, and the first thing I did was relook at a few moves I did early this morning, and I had overlooked something, and we'd lose a pawn from it.  Damn!  Yolo, I'm moving on to your moves now since the line begins the same as what I'm working on… Red1+.

USAuPzlBxBob

Ok, here's a long shot… tell me what you think.

Bxh7

  …      Bc6

I have to run this one more time with the White Queen posting on a2 instead of b3.

Why do I like the above diagrams?  We get the Queens off the board.

Now, we're still a pawn down our Rook will be coming out, and all sorts of things could continue from here.

If this can happen, most of the sequence (have to study it to be sure) may be forced once that DB takes the pawn.

Now, on to the Qa2 post up version.  Stay tuned

USAuPzlBxBob

Oh! Overlooked that our f6 pawn may be a poison pawn.  So let the Queen take it!

Need to study the whole thing.

Doesn't work.  And we'd lose the whole game.

USAuPzlBxBob

When doing the Qa2 post, I found an inaccuracy in my play on #511, so I improved upon it.

This gets our pawn back.

Bxh7

  • Had his Queen been on b2 would not be the same result.  Then his Queen would not be able to get to g3.
  • If he moved his pawn to f7, we still take it and the Rook protects g7.

The Queen getting to g3 changed everything.

We may be able to work this, but a passed pawn is always a problem.

Can't really recommend the Red1+  Kc8 in light of this.  But Martin could definitely play some other line, completely overlook this one.  The trouble is, the more that normal moves are made, the more likely this is to reveal itself.

USAuPzlBxBob

Current Position (Black to Move)

Maybe a lucky break for us.  Have to look it over.

matthew_b_rook

Wow completely unexpected move from Martin

USAuPzlBxBob

I've been looking it over and we're in good shape.

If we move our Queen to c5, then he's got to go for Bb7.  If he hesitates, and checks us with a Rook, then Kc7, and we can defend ourselves forever.

Let's say he does take the pawn.  Then we capture back with our DB, his Queen captures our DB, and we castle long.  Queens will get traded down if we push it.

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USAuPzlBxBob

Here is a likely position two ply out. (to get Martin's right angle Drunken Bishop move incorporated)

So, our b7 pawn is a poison pawn if we play Qc5.  If he takes b7, he loses the game.

I think he figured we'd move our Queen to c7, so as not to double our pawns.

Then he'd check our King with Red1, bring the Rook to d6 and park it, and just tighten things up.

Qc7 may be a good move for us.  Don't know.

Plenty of red meat for us to sink our teeth into over the next few days.

Martin's e5 ruined his position; it was one of the worst moves he could have made!

Anyway, look things over and see what else looks good.

USAuPzlBxBob

 

Gave things another look and it's not that good for us.

Our problems will grow around his Rook parking on c6.

Have to focus there.  Eliminate that capability.

No way is he going to capture our pawn on b7.

He's going to check us with Red1 (or Rcd1; maybe better) and immediately come down and park on c6.

Then he'll get everything aligned on that d file and create havoc.

Need everyone's thinking caps on this one.

USAuPzlBxBob

ry, I do too. (not my vote yet)

Martin made no mistake yesterday.

Thank you for saying that your current standing with Martin is 0 - 4.  That, and combined with your previous statement that Martin has never lost an Event Variant game, speaks volumes about his level of play.

And to think I was underestimating him yesterday.  Not today!

Martin spent over 24 hours thinking about e5.  No sloucher.

Have been looking over future positions I expect likely to result, and they involve Qc5 and King c7.

If we send our King over to the left of our d file when he plays a Rook to d1, I see nothing good coming from that.  Our King is vital to our defense, and must be a defender rather than just a target.

Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING, hinges on skillful play by us on the right side of the board, with consequences resulting 4 moves (8 ply) out.

There are slight tempos that go our way that far out by having our Queen on c5.

  • Queen isolates c4 pawn from encroachment
  • Queen bears down on f2
    • Rook at f8, fxe after f4 defends e5: #? happy.png
    • Also could force Martin's King toward d file
  • Martin cannot bring Queen to a file
    • that can change horribly for us in 8 ply
      • Rd6, Rxa6, pawn double, a4 opp for Q
      • we lose a pawn and maybe the game
  • Prevents immobility around d-c/6-7 square

Will start to post diagrams that highlight Martin's advantages.

We have 3 more days + 24 hours. (if he gives us a time warning)

We'll be well prepared by then.

USAuPzlBxBob

Here's what I believe to be Martin's main line.

7.  Bxc6

So, there you have it.

Have to run through it, maybe Edit this a little.

But clearly Martin has the high ground and flexibility to do what he wants.

There was one move I saw for us, early on, where we get the flexibility back, but to do it we have to exchange a Rook for his Drunken Bishop.

May not work out right for us.