Why did my opponent get +30 pts and I got +10 when the game was drawn due to insufficient material

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snoop_lion

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baddogno

Glicko RD.  I'll get the article...

baddogno

https://support.chess.com/article/210-how-do-ratings-work-on-chess-com

snoop_lion

I mean points as in material wise, rather than rating.

In 4 player FFA that's how the winner is determined, so I was wondering why in a drawn position with even material it gave my opponent 20 extra points than me.

2Ke21-0

Why did my opponent get +30 pts and I got +10 when the game was drawn due to insufficient material?

I do not think it is possible for both players to gain rating points in a single game. Was this a typo on your part?

snoop_lion

It's the 4 player free for all chess variant I'm talking about.

And I mean material points, not rating points e.g. Queen =  9 points, rook = 5, checkmate = 20.

The winner at the end of the game is the person with the most points, rather than the last player left standing.

2Ke21-0
BabYagun wrote:

4 Player chess uses the glicko2 rating system.

FFA:

(0<=X<=1. X gets smaller the higher the average rating of all players)

      1st:  3 wins
      2nd: X wins
      3rd: X losses
      4th: 3 losses

vs average rating of the game.

As a result, rating changes for 2nd an 3rd place are smaller in higher rated games.

 


Solo:
     
1st: 4 wins
      2nd-4th: 1.33 losses

Players that are tied for points share the number of wins and losses for the tied positions.

 


Teams:

Each team receives a "team rating" first, which is calculated as follows:
    Higher rated player in team * (2/3) + Lower rated player * (1/3)

In other words: A team's rating is weighed 2/3 toward the higher rated player.

Each player then gets one win or one loss vs. the opponents "team rating".

 


Rating Deviation aka Glicko RD = "Confidence that the rating is accurate". Players with very few games will have a high deviation and thus their rating changes will be large.

Players initially being with a deviation of 120, which will slowly drop to around 65 as more and more  games are played. This allows players to reach their "true rating" quickly.

Hover over ratings in the player popup to see the deviation (Glicko RD)

 

Ratings with a deviation greater than 100 are marked as provisional by a "?"

 

In other words, the "?" indicates the player has not played many games yet and his rating is likely not very accurate.

 

A player's rating deviation only has an affect on the player's own rating changes, but not on those of his opponents, or his teammate.

 


Old (outdated) rating thread: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/how-the-rating-system-works

 

snoop_lion

2Ke the thread has nothing to do with rating.

It's about the points used to determine who came 1st/2nd/3rd.

2Ke21-0
snoop_lion wrote:

2Ke the thread has nothing to do with rating.

It's about the points used to determine who came 1st/2nd/3rd.

Oh, sorry. I misinterpreted your question.

snoop_lion

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