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vickalan
Jul 23, 2018
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#61
Waredude wrote:
...Perhaps there should be a thread where in the first post you can see how much vaca time you have? And i think that vacation time should be not for each game, but for all of them. Example a; this player has a hard time making a move so he spends three days on it. He still has not decided what he is going to do. So he announces that he is going on vacation. He then goes to a game he is winning in and plays a move. This is BAD. I think that you should have vacation announced in all of your games on the same day or else it is invalid.
Example b; he is winning a game and plays a bad move. He is upset and goes on vacation but moves on to another game and plays a move. See? I think it should not be based on how many moves. But rather a time based system. Like you start with one month of vacation, but earn 7 days of vacation a month. With a maximum of 3 months of vacation. This way there is no way that you can just play in other games and not a select few. However, this is only an idea, or some advice. Simply a suggestion.

Thoughts?

In my opinion, I feel it's ok if people use vacation in one game and not another. Although a player can selectively play some games more slowly, a player is still forced to eventually finish every game, and if they don't, they will lose. I'm actually travelling now, and I don't have time to play all my games. By requesting vacation for 1 or 2 of my games (which I might do), it lets me finish the others where I can play in the little free time I have.

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vickalan
Jul 23, 2018
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#62
Martin0 wrote:

Was any agreement made? vickalan suggested 15 days of vacation time, something I can agree with, but as far as I know, no rule change has been made yet.

The longer vacation (15 days per 40 moves) is not in-force yet. But it seems there is agreement for it. I'll re-phrase the entire rule about vacation, and we can probably make it effective for all NEW games started August 1st or later. (last chance now for anyone to say they are against it). Please wait till I post the rule before anyone assumes it is effective.

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Metar_Taf
Jul 23, 2018
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#63

I agree.

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vickalan
Jul 23, 2018
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#64

What about games that go on for 80 moves (like my game against Tomato), or games that go on for 120 moves or more? (infinite chess against SuperSam1 went to 169 moves).meh.png

There is no way early in a game to know how long a game will last, and some players may burn all their time within the "average" 40 move length.

But maybe less than 15 days of vacation. How about 10 days per 40 moves. (current is 4).

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evert823
Jul 23, 2018
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#65

In my ongoing game I am now already giving the 3rd time warning after 4 days. Is there a max?

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Metar_Taf
Jul 23, 2018
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#66
evert823 wrote:

In my ongoing game I am now already giving the 3rd time warning after 4 days. Is there a max?

I put wfb in the forum.

When you know a complicated position you ask for a board after two plies.

 

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evert823
Jul 23, 2018
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#67

The board was there already for 4 days

 

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Metar_Taf
Jul 23, 2018
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#68

Oh whatever. I wasn’t stalling.

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evert823
Jul 23, 2018
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#69

My point is that, although after 3 + 1 days one can give a time warning, having multiple time warnings within a very limited number of moves from only one side becomes annoying, so there should be a rule against that as well.

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Metar_Taf
Jul 23, 2018
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#70

That was two plies ago. I requested a board.

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Junebug444
Jul 23, 2018
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#71

I'd request allowing the 15 days of vacation immediately go into effect, but that's for personal reasons (I'm making a trip to Europe in august). Just a request grin.png

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Metar_Taf
Jul 23, 2018
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#72
Junebug444 wrote:

I'd request allowing the 15 days of vacation immediately go into effect, but that's for personal reasons (I'm making a trip to Europe in august). Just a request

Going on 10 day trip to New England.

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Metar_Taf
Jul 23, 2018
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#73

But don't think about stalling, that will be in two weeks.

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captaintugwash
Jul 24, 2018
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#74

There should probably be a limit to the number of time warnings over a 40-move period. Three seems reasonable to me.

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vickalan
Jul 26, 2018
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#75
rychessmaster1 wrote:

...25 days for infinite 

I definitely don't want to make different rules for different types of games.

Everyone seems to agree we should have more vacation time, so next time I log on, I'll check here. If no complaints, I'll ammend the rules for 10 days of vacation effective for all NEW games started.

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vickalan
Jul 26, 2018
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#76
captaintugwash wrote:

There should probably be a limit to the number of time warnings over a 40-move period. Three seems reasonable to me.

Should we make a rule that after three time warnings, the next time violation (going over 3 days) can be called as an automatic forfeit?

Usually I would think that players who need to keep being reminded are probably poor players, so they should be easy to beat anyway. But who knows - maybe some people are lazy and have poor game etiquette but are brilliant chess masters?😛

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Martin0
Jul 26, 2018
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#77
vickalan wrote:
rychessmaster1 wrote:

...25 days for infinite 

I definitely don't want to make different rules for different types of games.

Everyone seems to agree we should have more vacation time, so next time I log on, I'll check here. If no complaints, I'll ammend the rules for 10 days of vacation effective for all NEW games started.

10? I thought we just agreed to 15

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evert823
Jul 26, 2018
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#78
vickalan wrote:
captaintugwash wrote:

There should probably be a limit to the number of time warnings over a 40-move period. Three seems reasonable to me.

Should we make a rule that after three time warnings, the next time violation (going over 3 days) can be called as an automatic forfeit?

Usually I would think that players who need to keep being reminded are probably poor players, so they should be easy to beat anyway. But who knows - maybe some people are lazy and have poor game etiquette but are brilliant chess masters?😛

Immediately effective in my game against Holo?tongue.png

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Metar_Taf
Jul 26, 2018
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#79
evert823 wrote:
vickalan wrote:
captaintugwash wrote:

There should probably be a limit to the number of time warnings over a 40-move period. Three seems reasonable to me.

Should we make a rule that after three time warnings, the next time violation (going over 3 days) can be called as an automatic forfeit?

Usually I would think that players who need to keep being reminded are probably poor players, so they should be easy to beat anyway. But who knows - maybe some people are lazy and have poor game etiquette but are brilliant chess masters?😛

Immediately effective in my game against Holo?

That was not my third warning. I asked for board after two plies.

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captaintugwash
Jul 27, 2018
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#80

Immediately effective with a clean slate, probably. There was no consent before, so perhaps people thought it was perfectly acceptable time management to wait for warning before deciding what to do. That's fair enough if there's no rule in place that prevents this use of time.