Grasshopper Chess (game: cobra91 - vickalan)

vickalan
This thread is for a game of "Grasshopper Chess" between cobra91 and vickalan.
 
Cobra91, You may play white.happy.png
vickalan
I also noticed grasshopper can be played here:
But I got an error message when I tried to move one piece. I'm sure I can figured it out. Let me know where you prefer to play. Either here or there is OK with me.happy.png
 
(I did study the grasshopper move this morning. It will be all new to me!)
cobra91

Let's try: 1. G e2-c4

Grasshopper Chess is home to some of the finest tactics in all the land. While that may well be its only true strength, the uniquely tactical dynamics alone make for the most pleasant of game-playing experiences you'll find anywhere. Better chess variants do exist, but make no mistake - they are rare as can be, and none are more enjoyable.

cobra91
vickalan wrote:
I also noticed grasshopper can be played here:
But I got an error message when I tried to move one piece. I'm sure I can figured it out. Let me know where you prefer to play. Either here or there is OK with me.
 
(I did study the grasshopper move this morning. It will be all new to me!)

I'm already well aware of Game Courier's capabilities, because I occasionally played there for ~2 years or so. Be warned: it's all too easy to get sucked into the mentality of the site's really hardcore players, who are always testing their limits with respect to things like the number of games they can play simultaneously, the number of different variants being spanned by those simultaneous games, and the complexity of both the gameplay and rule sets of said variants.

I eventually realized the activity was beginning to consume a little too much of my free time, and also suddenly noticed I did not enjoy the games as much as I once had. Thus, my presence on Game Courier is now on an indefinite hiatus.

vickalan

Can you let me know if I misunderstand something or does Wikipedia have a mistake? Wikipedia shows this diagram, and says that black king is in check if G jumps to b2.

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If G is at b2 then the black king is not attacked, is it? Going in that direction the grasshopper can only jump to d4 again. Either I'm confused or Wikipedia has some bad info. I better get this figured out before this game gets too far!

 

But for now I will go ahead and play:

1...b5

I'll go ahead and show diagrams (image is from link above, and I cut and paste to make it current). It's not too much trouble, and I think it's more fun if we can both see the same image. Just let me know if I show any illegal move, or if the picture doesn't match the moves we make.happy.png

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cobra91
vickalan wrote:

If G is at b2 then the black king is not attacked, is it? Going in that direction the grasshopper can only jump to d4 again. Either I'm confused or Wikipedia has some bad info. I better get this figured out before this game gets too far!

Whoever wrote that caption must have made an error. A grasshopper is not a full-fledged jumping queen, but rather a limited-range form which must land directly adjacent to the piece it hops over. So from b2 (in the diagram), the only squares it would attack are b7, d4, and e2.

I'm playing:  2. Gxf7

kinglysac

This is wierd

vickalan
kinglysack wrote:

This is wierd

Yes, I know it's weird but so far I like this game!happy.png

vickalan
cobra91 wrote:
Whoever wrote that caption must have made an error. A grasshopper is not a full-fledged jumping queen, but rather a limited-range form which must land directly adjacent to the piece it hops over...

I'm playing:  2. Gxf7

OK, good. (not good for Wikipedia). Now I understand the grasshopper.happy.png I'll play:

2...Gd7xf7

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cobra91

Our makeshift notation for this game is still somewhat iffy:  3. Gdb4

vickalan
I'll play
3....Gc7c5
In other games I usually only note the piece to be moved, and it's destination. If no piece is named, it's a pawn. The only time I add more info is to resolve an ambiguity.

But in this game with so many grasshoppers, I'll probably also indicate where the grasshopper originated from. So here's the total game so far:
1. Ge2c4   b5
2. Gxf7     Gd7xf7
3. Gdb4    Gc7c5
Let me know if you can think of any improvement in any systems we use. Here's the updated board:
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Btw, a few weeks ago I made a proposal to unify correspondence chess rules. Not that I've seen any disputes or expect any. But I thought it would be good to have it just in case there is ever a long-running game, and the opponents need some advice on how to resolve a problem. You can see it (here) if you'd like.
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cobra91

In typical algebraic notation, only the file of origin is included. When that fails to remove the ambiguity, one gives the rank of origin, but omits the corresponding file. Listing both coordinates together is a last resort which never happens in practice.

Anyway, time to move:  4. d4

vickalan

Oh, I didn't know that's the normal convention. Only listing the file or rank to remove an ambiguity. There's still a lot of grasshoppers (7 each) so I don't think it matters if we announce the origin of a grasshopper move. Just as long as we don't get confused.

I'll play:

4...a5

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cobra91

This is already getting interesting!

Since I am using a physical chess set (with checkers for the grasshoppers), mistakes in your diagrams are of little to no consequence for me, but I should still point out the errant omission of a pawn on e3 in the above position. Of course, there's no reason to delay the game over such minor details, so:  5. dxc5

ZITIAN

Isnt the queen a bit like a cannon in chinese chess, apart from the fact that the queen can move diagonally

ZITIAN

Are the two balls with two lines poking out meant to be eyeballs or something? meh.pnghappy.png

 

i should probably just search it up -_-

vickalan
Zitian: Only the grasshoppers are different. They jump over other pieces to move or capture. If no place to jump, they can't movesad.png
Cobra91: oops, I think I did a cut and paste rather than a copy (getting a pic of a pawn on a green square).
Our declared moves take precedent, so if I started making bad moves based on a bad diagram I would have no ground to stand on.
I did fix the previous diagram, and I think the new one is OK.
This game is interesting. There's lots of pieces in a small area, and lots of jumping and capturing going on. So far the grasshoppers are having the most fun!happy.png
5...axb4
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cobra91

  6. cxb4

vickalan

I added the captured pieces at the side of the board. I'll play:

6...Ga7xa2

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cobra91

Showoff...  Tongue Out

  7. Gxa2