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JaneBellamy

I own a bar and we recently started holding small chess tournaments. The main problem though is that people have stopped signing up because there is this one guy who is much better than everybody else and he always wins. I want people to sign up again, but for that I need to convince them that they can beat this guy. I thought about making tournaments involving some chess variants. I discarded Chess960 because it's still too similar to normal chess, but I'm thinking about Crazyhouse and Horde. Is there some other variant that I could consider? Maybe something involving a little bit of luck, has anyone invented that? Thank you.

50Mark

Try my variant.It is easy to be prepared.

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/chess960-chess-variants/functional-exchanged-chess

game_designer

This guy will still be a problem even when you try variants.

For the weaker players variants will just be a bit more confusing.

Just have 2 tournaments, split between stronger players and weaker players.

Call it Category A and Category B, or Tournament A and B, or whatever.

If someone keeps winning for the lower rated players they get booted out to the stronger bracket.

If you also want to try variants I would suggest Bughouse for teams of 2 players.

It is one of the most popular variants and is even played by grandmasters for fun.

Crazyhouse is not really a good idea for Over-The-Board because you need one board + 2 complete sets for each game.

Summary:

Category A (Normal chess for strong players)

Category B (Normal chess for not so strong players)

Bughouse (Open tournament for teams of 2 people)

Good Luck

evert823

Obviously this is what you're looking for:

Handicap chess

HGMuller

Chess players that are stronger than other experienced Chess players are often that because of their better knowledge of opening theory. Their edge can be removed by playing a variant instead. But inexperienced players tend to lose because they make tactical mistakes, and are just not as good in thinking ahead, or even paying attention to the opponent's moves, and this would make them lose at any variant.

50Mark

One of chess elements is memorization.By reducing memorization aspect in standard chess,it will let mere tactical game left on the board.Thus the experienced and non experienced chess player will almost have the equal skill. 

JaneBellamy

I like the idea of bughouse! It would also make it more social/fun since you're playing with a friend! I think this can work!

What time limit would you set for this?

game_designer

Try 5+2 to start.

That's 5 minutes + 2 second increment per move.

That means that a game on average will be slightly less than 15 minutes.

The easy way to work that out is 2 players x (5 + 2) = 14 minutes

That works as an average 60 moves per game cancels out 60 seconds per minute.

Still works for bughouse cause both clocks are always running...

 

If that is too slow try 3+2 or if too fast try something like 5+5, 5+10, 10+5.

Try test games with some friends OTB at the pub before you finally decide.

 

If that guy always teams up with another strong player (he will) then introduce a rule.

2 strong players not allowed on same team, your decision is final, cause it's your pub wink.png

Good Luck

JaneBellamy

 Haha thank you game_designer!

mlhw
Hi. I would recommend Alice Chess, a very well established and recognized variant that changes the way you think so much that experienced orthodox chess players make a lot of makes. Another variant that is similar in this way is Hostage Chess. You might also look into Dynamo Chess, Ultima, and Racing Kings. All are still very "chessy", with Dynamo and Ultima diverging the most from standard chess. And a great game you can play with chess sets that is not really a chess variant is Arimaa. I wish I could visit your bar! ; (
evert823
HGMuller wrote:

Chess players that are stronger than other experienced Chess players are often that because of their better knowledge of opening theory. Their edge can be removed by playing a variant instead. But inexperienced players tend to lose because they make tactical mistakes, and are just not as good in thinking ahead, or even paying attention to the opponent's moves, and this would make them lose at any variant.

I must say, I've almost beaten (and only once REALLY beaten) a much stronger chess player in a variant. I had studied the non-standard pieces, while he started the game saying "please tell me once again how this piece and that piece moves". This gives us another nice form of handicap variant chess: the weaker player gets to know the rules a couple of days earlier.