How much could a player improve just by watching agadmator videos?

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Wertot_zz
I've been playing chess red for 20 years so I know the ranking of things well I know the strategies how to eat King Larene all in one go it's very easy I'll explain in my YouTube channel here is my YouTube channel: Wertot_to zz
SteveWanton

Play italian if you are white or sicilian if you are black.

Do not expose your Queen.

Use your pawns early.

Decide if you like bishops or knights.

Have a nice game.

 

Closed_username1234

Pretty sure this has been said in the 100+ comments, but I'll give my POV.

Yes, there can be a bit learned from watching stuff like agadmator's videos.

But your time would be better spend looking at these games by yourself or with an engine.

Antonio just mindless reads out the moves, and the engine suggestions. He barely gives any advice that you couldn't figure out on your own or without the comp.

JamesColeman
Christianf859 wrote:

Pretty sure this has been said in the 100+ comments, but I'll give my POV.

Yes, there can be a bit learned from watching stuff like agadmator's videos.

But your time would be better spend looking at these games by yourself or with an engine.

Antonio just mindless reads out the moves, and the engine suggestions. He barely gives any advice that you couldn't figure out on your own or without the comp.

Exactly right…I just don’t really get it. I mean, he brings people into chess via a large subscriber-base and I’m all for that, it’s great…but in terms of the videos themselves, I just don’t really see that much (or any) value, at least in terms of improvement. 

That being said, I’m talking about purely passively watching his vids, if you watched the vids as a base, went away, then analysed all the games really carefully yourself, then that would pay off a lot. But that’s hard work, and who wants to do that… 

TheOldPatzer

For anyone that is serious about improving, rather than watchingvideos from players that are  fairly good (agdamator) to strong expert level (kingcrusher) you'd be better off with any of the classic BOOKS of instruction, spending many hours studying each game, asking searching questions on all the possibilities that seem reasonable that the writer did not cover in their comments or variations ...  then checking with a powerful engine how well your analysis holds up.

Chess videos often pretend they are about improving and , indeed with the right attitude and approach you can learn a lot from them, but they are best viewed as entertainment.

EloquentEnigma
I became about 1600-1700 by watching agadmator
SteveWanton

The parrot is a terrible show-off.

SteveWanton

That was relevant.

Tzuriel2006

It would be better to watch gothamchess he is a IM and when he does recaps he explain key concepts and says why not to do things and teaches how not to blunder.

The_Hungry_Champion

Maybe you can't just become a better player by watching other's games ngl

Knighthawk_140

I cram load's of Agadmator videos, also Ben Finegold's lecture's, Levy (Gotham Chess) and Hanging Pawns. All are of good content, giving you ideas for your Opening Repertoires.

TheOldPatzer
TheCuriousParrot wrote:
I became about 1600-1700 by watching agadmator

 So what?   I did not say you could not learn from YouTube videos. You can.  What I said is that IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT IMPROVING then you'd be BETTER OFF studying chess in a more involved and systematic way ... of which the best example, and one that still works better than passively following on-line tutorials, is to systematically work through an old-fashioned book of instruction.  Good modern examples are Yusupov's instruction books.  [ https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Yusupov&i=stripbooks-intl-ship&crid=KPLVAJJE6PCR&sprefix=yusupov%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C148&ref=nb_sb_noss  ]

 

When I was a young and improving player in the 1970's the go-to books were those by Euwe and Kramer and Euwe and Meiden and they are still relevant today, despite the openings being outdated.

In the grand scheme of things 1600-1700 is not that strong.  It may put you in the top few percent on chess.com, but that does not mean a lot. In over the board chess it would put you in the Minor tournament class ... that is two levels below the Open and Major sections of weekend tournaments in the UK. 

Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe
Beginner to Chess Master series is a great series by chess network. He explains a lot of positional concepts in-depth and the game as a whole also.
kartikeya_tiwari
Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe wrote:
Beginner to Chess Master series is a great series by chess network. He explains a lot of positional concepts in-depth and the game as a whole also.

I find his videos of game analysis of lower rated players better. Regardless, chessnetwork is the best channel for anyone looking for chess improvement, highly recommend him

EloquentEnigma
kartikeya_tiwari wrote:
Chr0mePl8edSt0vePipe wrote:
Beginner to Chess Master series is a great series by chess network. He explains a lot of positional concepts in-depth and the game as a whole also.

I find his videos of game analysis of lower rated players better. Regardless, chessnetwork is the best channel for anyone looking for chess improvement, highly recommend him

I find agadmator more interesting than the chess network and I have learnt more from him. Of course, I'm not saying it's bad but what I mean is the best way to improve if you want to be a 1600+ rated player (lichess rating) or 1500+ rated player (chess.com rating) then I recommend that you do some puzzles and read some books.

No offense but I think this topic should be closed by now as I think @KevinOSh has got his answer.

EloquentEnigma
TheOldPatzer wrote:
TheCuriousParrot wrote:
I became about 1600-1700 by watching agadmator

 So what?   I did not say you could not learn from YouTube videos. You can.  What I said is that IF YOU ARE SERIOUS ABOUT IMPROVING then you'd be BETTER OFF studying chess in a more involved and systematic way ... of which the best example, and one that still works better than passively following on-line tutorials, is to systematically work through an old-fashioned book of instruction.  Good modern examples are Yusupov's instruction books.  [ https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Yusupov&i=stripbooks-intl-ship&crid=KPLVAJJE6PCR&sprefix=yusupov%2Cstripbooks-intl-ship%2C148&ref=nb_sb_noss  ]

 

When I was a young and improving player in the 1970's the go-to books were those by Euwe and Kramer and Euwe and Meiden and they are still relevant today, despite the openings being outdated.

In the grand scheme of things 1600-1700 is not that strong.  It may put you in the top few percent on chess.com, but that does not mean a lot. In over the board chess it would put you in the Minor tournament class ... that is two levels below the Open and Major sections of weekend tournaments in the UK. 

Bro I'm U10 UK girls champion and even though I'm a 2200 rated player (lichess of course) I still find agadmator interesting. But you have a point even I prefer New in Chess

TheOldPatzer
TheCuriousParrot wrote:
 

Bro I'm U10 UK girls champion and even though I'm a 2200 rated player (lichess of course) I still find agadmator interesting. But you have a point even I prefer New in Chess

 

Well Clemence, it is nice of you to engage me in conversation.  I compliment you on achieving 2200 on lichess. That is a very impressive achievement for someone with a FIDE rating of just  1344 (though that is still very good for a 10-year old).   I hope you realise that you are breaking chess.com rules by having TWO accounts (i.e. this one ... The CuriousParrot and another under your real name).

Or is it Yasashvini that I am conversing with?  If so then hearty congratulations on your success in the junior championships and on achieving an ECF rating of 1518.  Very impressive for a 9-year old.

Well, whichever you are, my compliments too on your very mature use of the English language (though I have never before had a young  English girl address me as "Bro" !!

EloquentEnigma
TheOldPatzer wrote:
TheCuriousParrot wrote:
 

Bro I'm U10 UK girls champion and even though I'm a 2200 rated player (lichess of course) I still find agadmator interesting. But you have a point even I prefer New in Chess

 

Well Clemence, it is nice of you to engage me in conversation.  I compliment you on achieving 2200 on lichess. That is a very impressive achievement for someone with a FIDE rating of just  1344 (though that is still very good for a 10-year old).   I hope you realise that you are breaking chess.com rules by having TWO accounts (i.e. this one ... The CuriousParrot and another under your real name).

Or is it Yasashvini that I am conversing with?  If so then hearty congratulations on your success in the junior championships and on achieving an ECF rating of 1518.  Very impressive for a 9-year old.

Well, whichever you are, my compliments too on your very mature use of the English language (though I have never before had a young  English girl address me as "Bro" !!

I am not either of them and perhaps it's because I'm a bit more casual

EloquentEnigma

Also please don't report poor Clemence as she only has one account

EloquentEnigma

@TheOldPatzer I find our discussion becoming rather vulgar and I'd like to think it's best to end it here as it's also getting really off-topic. Apologies in advance.