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erik

Member tacticaltrickyknight starts spouting in ChessTV chat...

 

 

TacticalTrickyKnight: erik, in the range 1500-1700 in bullet i've been playing 95% of chessbot user
TacticalTrickyKnight: what are you doing against that?
erik: feel free to report!
erik: I am pretty sure that isn't true. If someone is cheating, they aren't playing at 1500 level
TacticalTrickyKnight: i'm playing 400 bullet game a day over 200 opponent
TacticalTrickyKnight: that's 150 chessbot user
TacticalTrickyKnight: i'm not writing 150+ report unless you pay me
erik: We do monitor. If you aren't happy with it, feel free to report just 3 people. Thank you!
TacticalTrickyKnight: because it's obvious johns, their play is suspicious, when you confront them they either don't even deny it or they insult you
TacticalTrickyKnight: and their profile is full of message claiming they are engine user
TacticalTrickyKnight: and they are
TacticalTrickyKnight: it's impossible otherwise
TacticalTrickyKnight: 1500 player can't smash me in 10 moves in bullet over and over
TacticalTrickyKnight: when i crush 1700 players
TacticalTrickyKnight: i'm not bragging, these are facts they are 80% of engine users around this rating
TacticalTrickyKnight: their monitoring tool can't see anything
erik: Hey TacticalTrickyKnight - I looked at your recent bullet games. Looks like you are winning against all those 95% cheaters. You won 29 of your last 50 games. So... you are smashing all of those cheaters? Fascinating. Tell me more.

TacticalTrickyKnight: look at the last 600 games and make an analysis erik
TacticalTrickyKnight: erik, today i started at 1700 and went to 1595 over 100+ games
erik: You won 50 out of your last 100 games. Sounds about like what is expected.
TacticalTrickyKnight: i told you to do it over 600 games
erik: You just said 100 today
TacticalTrickyKnight: and 50 out of 100 when playing people rated 1650 is a shame for me
erik: Anyway, 100 is statistically significant. You won 1/2 of your games, as expected.
ZephyrXander: erik hitting him with the facts
TacticalTrickyKnight: that's because i kept playing to get my rating back
TacticalTrickyKnight: if i had stopped
TacticalTrickyKnight: it would be 5%
TacticalTrickyKnight: and you refuse to look at them!
erik: I literally just manually counted your games
TacticalTrickyKnight: it's just idk, your monitoring is not good enough
erik: I just looked at 200 more of your games and you won in more than 50%.
JonUrra: erik is just owning that guy, haha
TacticalTrickyKnight: you're not listening to what i said erik
M8in28: hahaha i think eric is just making numbers up now
erik: Please don't come in hear and spread fake news about your situation. I looked at 300 of your games. You won more than half.
erik: Feel free to count them like I did: https://www.chess.com/games/archive?show=live_lightning&;username=tacticaltrickyknight&gameType=live&rated=rated&gameOwner=other_game&gameTypeslive%5B0%5D=bullet&gameTypes%5B0%5D=blitz&gameTypes%5B1%5D=standard&gameTypes%5B2%5D=lightning&gameTypes%5B3%5D=bullet&gameTypes%5B4%5D=daily&gameTypes%5B5%5D=rapid&page=6
M8in28: you went from 200- 300 games in 1 second
erik: I graduated from college, M8in28. I can count green squares pretty quickly.
TacticalTrickyKnight: now i'm just thinking like the others that you are making the numbers up
TacticalTrickyKnight: that's the truth
erik: Ok TacticalTrickyKnight - let's put your money where your mouth is. If, over the last 300 games, you have lost more than 50%, I will give you a lifetime diamond membership. If you are wrong, I close your account. Deal?
TacticalTrickyKnight: lol
M8in28: take it
soupram: erik pulling out all his cards
JohnHS: Do it, Erik
juveleu76: LOL@ erik
jspicher: please erik, do it!
JohnHS: Time to investigate, Erik
M8in28: no if you win more than 50% he's gonna close your account
TacticalTrickyKnight: he is talking about previous played games i assume
jspicher: trickyknight, yeah can't you read? He said he'd look at our last 300 played
erik: Your last 300 games, ok? Deal? Lifetime membership, or your account gets closed?
erik: If you have LOST more than 50%
M8in28: i'd take that deal
jspicher: trickyknight, don't wuss out -- take the damn deal
TacticalTrickyKnight: lol you didn't specify that my account would be closed if that's not the case
erik: If you are going to come in here and make accusations, then stand up for them.
TacticalTrickyKnight: i am
erik: OK. So you take the deal?
TacticalTrickyKnight: no, i didn't know you wanted to close the account if this isn't true and i don't know about the numbers for sure
erik: I'll check your last 300 games. If you have lost more than 50% of them, you get lifetime membership. If you have NOT lost more than 50%, then your account gets closed. Deal?
JohnHS: Take it, Tactical
JohnHS: Are you backing down?
TacticalTrickyKnight: ok erik
TacticalTrickyKnight: deal
erik: OK!
nhallowell02: lets goooo
erik: Starting with this: https://i.imgur.com/bo3qHwK.png
Juancris: nice seeing you tactiltrickyknight

 

 

You can count the games here: https://www.chess.com/games/archive?show=live_lightning&username=tacticaltrickyknight&gameType=live&rated=rated&gameOwner=other_game&gameTypeslive%5B0%5D=bullet&gameTypes%5B0%5D=blitz&gameTypes%5B1%5D=standard&gameTypes%5B2%5D=lightning&gameTypes%5B3%5D=bullet&gameTypes%5B4%5D=daily&gameTypes%5B5%5D=rapid

 

Page 1 - 29 wins, 1 draw, 20 losses
Page 2 - 21 wins, 2 draws, 27 losses
Page 3 - 19 wins, 3 wins, 28 losses
Page 4 - 24 wins, 0 draws, 26 losses
Page 5 - 30 wins, 3 draws, 17 losses
Page 6 - 28 wins, 0 draws, 22 losses

 

That's 140 losses out of 300 games. 9 draws. 151 wins. 

 

Instead of closing his account, he's permanently muted. 

Don't spread fake news.

 

 

JohnHS

Great article.  I enjoyed that exchange when I was there.  I had already been arguing with Tactical for a bit, glad you came along and cleared things up.  grin.png

Erik rules!

Skwerly

lol permamute!  

gambit-man

he was annoying me too...

ijgeoffrey

Don't worry Erik, now that I've seen what you will do, I promise not to spread fake news. surprise.png

wink.png

But seriously, even if you take his full history of 4,751 games, he still hasn't lost over 50%! https://www.chess.com/stats/live/tacticaltrickyknight?type=bullet It's just so strange how people's perceptions can be off. 

And people who accuse a cheating epidemic at the 1500 level always make me laugh anyway. tongue.png

IMBacon

Sounds like TacticalTrickyKnight works for the DNC with all those "facts"

power_9_the_people
Me too, and I don't even understand why they make those accusations ??
ArgoNavis

erik: I graduated from college, M8in28. I can count green squares pretty quickly.

 

All my life thinking college was useless, and today I realize I've been wrong all the time.

Listen kids. Don't make the same mistake as me. You can actually learn useful stuff in college.

IMBacon

Permanently muted...thats like being at the buffet and not being able to eat.  

Eseles
erik wrote:

...he's permanently muted. 

Don't spread fake news.

  

Thanks for the succinct TL/DR in the end

Sergeant-Peppers
don't mention the bots in live! they are not supposed to be there!
MGleason

"in the range 1500-1700 in bullet i've been playing 95% of chessbot user"

"i'm playing 400 bullet game a day over 200 opponent"

"that's 150 chessbot user"

 

I'm struggling to figure out how 95% of 200 is 150.  I can handle prepayment modelling on mortgage-backed securities and option adjusted calculations on callable municipal bonds, but this one is a bit beyond me.

Reepicheep14

Mods! Here's another cheating thread! Quick, lock it!

IMBacon
MGleason wrote:

"in the range 1500-1700 in bullet i've been playing 95% of chessbot user"

"i'm playing 400 bullet game a day over 200 opponent"

"that's 150 chessbot user"

 

I'm struggling to figure out how 95% of 200 is 150.  I can handle prepayment modelling on mortgage-backed securities and option adjusted calculations on callable municipal bonds, but this one is a bit beyond me.

Thats common core math in action!

e4_guy

I won just 45% of my blitz games and lost 50% grin.png How is it that I'm over 1900 rated ? grin.png

david
Reepicheep14 wrote:

Mods! Here's another cheating thread! Quick, lock it!

As well as various political allusions as well 

To be fair, it's really about how there isn't the sort of cheating that the person believed there is on Chess.com. If @TacticalTrickyKnight had made those accusations in a forum thread, then yes, it would have been locked.

MLBPurrincessJustice

Im confused now.

 

MLBPurrincessJustice

AGGGGH

 

Oh, hi eriktongue.pnghappy.png

Renegade_Yoda

This was a great read thanks made my day! 

I think someone should consider hiring tactical to calculate net profit for there company. he can improve the bottom line in 1 day by 500% easy. 

CheckmateGenius
david wrote:
Reepicheep14 wrote:

Mods! Here's another cheating thread! Quick, lock it!

As well as various political allusions as well 

To be fair, it's really about how there isn't the sort of cheating that the person believed there is on Chess.com. If @TacticalTrickyKnight had made those accusations in a forum thread, then yes, it would have been locked.


Isn't Erik above the law though?