Accuser Takes the Deal

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Hey Erik, it's tacticaltrickyknight.

I sent you a pm but what you're attempting to do here is more like a personal attack more than anything.

Anyway let's check the numbers, so 140 losses out of 300 games, sure that's not 50% but that's extremely close isn't it? Now add the argument (which was stated during the chat) that since I was mad at losing to cheater (or what I consider to be a cheat anyway), I kept playing to get my rating back. Which means that everytime, if I were to stop playing, I'd be quite at more than 50% losses.

So you can make fun of me here, my numbers weren't literally true but the idea is there.

You can argue that i'm just weaker than that, but eventually I believe I could prove that this is happening for any rating, meaning that even if you consider my real bullet rating to be at 1300, I'd get outplayed by 1200 rated users the exact same way (this is theorical). You claimed that losing/winning 50% of the time is normal, but let me remind you once again that you were so entitled not to listen to the argument and just reject them: the more I lose, the more I play weaker player (opponent are found within my rating range), meaning that it is not so normal anymore to lose/win 50% of the time, I should be winning much more then, until I get my to my normal rating. But that was part of my argument: it's not happening, I was losing the exact same way to a 1650 and to a 1500 (of course this is not true for most game but it's true often enough to illustrate the problem).

I'm a patzer, there's no denying of that but I know how to play chess and i have a lot of bullet experience, I beat Aman in 3m after he gave his queen away (material odds shows, 3|0), certainly that means something regarding my skills other than bullet.

You can make fun of me for my reaction, but telling me to write reports when i'm blocking 150 users a day on your website is not an option. You can make fun of the numbers, for sure it's hard to give a percentage number of cheaters, but the problem is real, the rating is completely irrelevant. When I play on lichess (bullet rating stable at 1800) I have almost never this feeling of playing an engine. I played on lichess today, i lost a lot, i never thought i was playing an engine, my opponents all made obvious mistake that us patzer make at this level in bullet, but on chess.com, it's never like that, never.

Another point is that cheater don't even actually care, when i confront them they will either insult me (whereas a normal reaction for a player being accused of cheater is to be humble and proud about it and to reply "err no i'm not an engine user but thanks") or they will just admit it right away. These people are at their 90th account, a ban feels like a breeze to them.

Chessnetwork stopped playing on chess.com for this reason, the gingerGM himself is not a fond of them cheater as well and has expressed his feeling toward it, does it take a GM title to be considered on chess.com? I know it is extremely difficult to be sure that an user cheated but it is a reality that chess.com is infested with them, telling me to go play on a different website if I'm not happy is not a solution to the problem, and it's what I'm doing already. 

Happy holydays ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Hey Erik, it's tacticaltrickyknight.

I sent you a pm but what you're attempting to do here is more like a personal attack more than anything.

Anyway let's check the numbers, so 140 losses out of 300 games, sure that's not 50% but that's extremely close isn't it? Now add the argument (which was stated during the chat) that since I was mad at losing to cheater (or what I consider to be a cheat anyway), I kept playing to get my rating back. Which means that everytime, if I were to stop playing, I'd be quite at more than 50% losses.

So you can make fun of me here, my numbers weren't literally true but the idea is there.

You can argue that i'm just weaker than that, but eventually I believe I could prove that this is happening for any rating, meaning that even if you consider my real bullet rating to be at 1300, I'd get outplayed by 1200 rated users the exact same way (this is theorical). You claimed that losing/winning 50% of the time is normal, but let me remind you once again that you were so entitled not to listen to the argument and just reject them: the more I lose, the more I play weaker player (opponent are found within my rating range), meaning that it is not so normal anymore to lose/win 50% of the time, I should be winning much more then, until I get my to my normal rating. But that was part of my argument: it's not happening, I was losing the exact same way to a 1650 and to a 1500 (of course this is not true for most game but it's true often enough to illustrate the problem).

I'm a patzer, there's no denying of that but I know how to play chess and i have a lot of bullet experience, I beat Aman in 3m after he gave his queen away (material odds shows, 3|0), certainly that means something regarding my skills other than bullet.

You can make fun of me for my reaction, but telling me to write reports when i'm blocking 150 users a day on your website is not an option. You can make fun of the numbers, for sure it's hard to give a percentage number of cheaters, but the problem is real, the rating is completely irrelevant. When I play on lichess (bullet rating stable at 1800) I have almost never this feeling of playing an engine. I played on lichess today, i lost a lot, i never thought i was playing an engine, my opponents all made obvious mistake that us patzer make at this level in bullet, but on chess.com, it's never like that, never.

Another point is that cheater don't even actually care, when i confront them they will either insult me (whereas a normal reaction for a player being accused of cheater is to be humble and proud about it and to reply "err no i'm not an engine user but thanks") or they will just admit it right away. These people are at their 90th account, a ban feels like a breeze to them.

Chessnetwork stopped playing on chess.com for this reason, the gingerGM himself is not a fond of them cheater as well and has expressed his feeling toward it, does it take a GM title to be considered on chess.com? I know it is extremely difficult to be sure that an user cheated but it is a reality that chess.com is infested with them, telling me to go play on a different website if I'm not happy is not a solution to the problem, and it's what I'm doing already. 

Happy holydays ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Erik, please respond to this comment. This is one accomplishment I have yet to achieve....

Hey Erik, it's tacticaltrickyknight.

 I sent you a pm but what you're attempting to do here is more like a personal attack more than anything.

You spend hours on MY website attacking me and our service and making up fake numbers and lying to thousands of people online and then YOU get upset that I posted the PUBLIC chat and FACTS about your game history? 

Hilarious!!

So you can make fun of me here, my numbers weren't literally true but the idea is there.

Hey Erik, it's tacticaltrickyknight.

I sent you a pm but what you're attempting to do here is more like a personal attack more than anything.

Anyway let's check the numbers, so 140 losses out of 300 games, sure that's not 50% but that's extremely close isn't it? Now add the argument (which was stated during the chat) that since I was mad at losing to cheater (or what I consider to be a cheat anyway), I kept playing to get my rating back. Which means that everytime, if I were to stop playing, I'd be quite at more than 50% losses.

So you can make fun of me here, my numbers weren't literally true but the idea is there.

You can argue that i'm just weaker than that, but eventually I believe I could prove that this is happening for any rating, meaning that even if you consider my real bullet rating to be at 1300, I'd get outplayed by 1200 rated users the exact same way (this is theorical). You claimed that losing/winning 50% of the time is normal, but let me remind you once again that you were so entitled not to listen to the argument and just reject them: the more I lose, the more I play weaker player (opponent are found within my rating range), meaning that it is not so normal anymore to lose/win 50% of the time, I should be winning much more then, until I get my to my normal rating. But that was part of my argument: it's not happening, I was losing the exact same way to a 1650 and to a 1500 (of course this is not true for most game but it's true often enough to illustrate the problem).

I'm a patzer, there's no denying of that but I know how to play chess and i have a lot of bullet experience, I beat Aman in 3m after he gave his queen away (material odds shows, 3|0), certainly that means something regarding my skills other than bullet.

You can make fun of me for my reaction, but telling me to write reports when i'm blocking 150 users a day on your website is not an option. You can make fun of the numbers, for sure it's hard to give a percentage number of cheaters, but the problem is real, the rating is completely irrelevant. When I play on lichess (bullet rating stable at 1800) I have almost never this feeling of playing an engine. I played on lichess today, i lost a lot, i never thought i was playing an engine, my opponents all made obvious mistake that us patzer make at this level in bullet, but on chess.com, it's never like that, never.

Another point is that cheater don't even actually care, when i confront them they will either insult me (whereas a normal reaction for a player being accused of cheater is to be humble and proud about it and to reply "err no i'm not an engine user but thanks") or they will just admit it right away. These people are at their 90th account, a ban feels like a breeze to them.

Chessnetwork stopped playing on chess.com for this reason, the gingerGM himself is not a fond of them cheater as well and has expressed his feeling toward it, does it take a GM title to be considered on chess.com? I know it is extremely difficult to be sure that an user cheated but it is a reality that chess.com is infested with them, telling me to go play on a different website if I'm not happy is not a solution to the problem, and it's what I'm doing already. 

Happy holydays ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You spend hours on MY website attacking me and our service and making up fake numbers and lying to thousands of people online and then YOU get upset that I posted the PUBLIC chat and FACTS about your game history? 

Hilarious!!