Alarming number of kids turning to this site for psychiatric advise or threatening suicide

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Vincidroid wrote:
Optimissed wrote:
Vincidroid wrote:

Before I begin my actual comment, I would like to apologize in advance for my inadequate level of English proficiency. I am not a native speaker of the world's current lingua franca which unfortunately leads to me making numerous embarrassing mistakes being made whenever I attempt to communicate using this language. Whenever I am reminded of how I lack the ability to convey my thoughts in an eloquent manner I feel as though I have committed a cardinal sin, as though every English teacher in the world are simultaneously shaking their heads and sighing due to how utterly disappointed they are at me.

"every English teacher is" (doing something) and not "are". The reason is that "every" means "every one", so it takes the singular.

 

Although I know that saying sorry to those of you who are reading my comment will not change the fact that I fail miserably to write and speak perfect English, I am writing this as a way to deter a certain type of people who cannot stand poor English (Also known informally as “Grammar Nazis”) from mocking me by posting unwanted and unnecessary comments detailing my every blunder. In my humble opinion, making grammatical errors should be perfectly acceptable as native speakers should not expect non-native speakers to be able to communicate in their second or third languages eloquently. If you are able to completely understand what the other person wrote, is there really a problem with what they've written? No,

Here, you're answering your own question: to your own advantage, some might say! As long as you're aware that it's your opinion, that's fine, of course. Bad grammar irritates me, because I tend to read very fast and I don't want to have to pause and work out what someone means, every few seconds. It destroys the flow of what one's reading, as well as the flow of responses to it.

because the entire concept of communication is the exchange of information 
between other intelligent beings, which means that no matter how the exchange of information is made, as long as the information is accurately shared there is not a fundamental issue with their ability to communicate.

.... which is the point I made.

To see it in another way, remember that someone who isn't fluent in English is fluent in another language. When you think about it this way, isn't it impressive for someone to speak a second language in any capacity?

It's wonderful.

 

Having empathy and respect are qualities that are sorely missing for far too many people these days, especially on the internet.

Snowflakes who complain about lack of empathy in others may themselves be the ones who lack it, however. 

 

That being said, I am aware that not all netizens who correct others are doing it to ridicule and shame. There are some who do so with the intent to help others improve and grow. However, displaying the failures of other people publicly will cause the person who is criticized to feel negative emotions such as shame and sadness due to the fact that their mistake has been made obvious which severely undermines the point they were trying to make in spite of their unfamiliarity with the English language. In most circumstances people are not looking for language help when they post anything online. Most people just want to enjoy themselves and have a good time on the internet which is why I would not encourage correcting other people regardless of your intentions. If you really do want to help others with their spelling or grammar, I would highly recommend you to help via messaging privately because not only will you not embarrass anyone, you can also go more in-depth with your explanation which I'm sure the other person will greatly appreciate if they want help, but I digress. I know that I've written a bit of an essay, but I hope I've made my points clear. Anyways, here is the comment I wanted to make: Poop.

You made yourself clear. Indeed, you're a party pooper, beyond compare!

Well Done. Try to write in slightly shorter sentences or use more punctuation, in future. 
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I was hoping you'd get my joke, but you've disappointed me. I even mentioned that the implication was not passive aggression. I sort of liked you as an active member of the forums. My respect for you has dropped a little. 

Good, keep it coming. Seriously though, jokes can be a two-edged sword, when the joker is on the receiving end. My respect for you remains stable.

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Woollensock2 wrote:
Lol 😝

Woolly’s offerde you help with your grammar, this is your last chance to improve it , so if you don’t wanna remain the dunce all your life, I recommend that you accept my offer.

 

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InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

Also, I read very fast, and bad grammar doesn’t bother me. My brain tends to skip over some words when I read and I still get a general sense of what is being said (I dunno if you can even call it reading at that point, but I love reading books so define reading on your own). Also, after a while of being on the internet, you get accustomed to all the acronyms and misspelled stuff.

I know you should. I joined Facebook round about 2006 and was a very active member for years. I think this is a kind of displacement therapy for me, because I can always pretend to myself that playing chess is the real reason I'm here. I really only find it difficult when someone is trying to explain something that's really complicated. Most non-English natives wouldn't do that or will understand when help is required. I remember about a year ago, someone wrote an a4 page-full and I just couldn't understand what was going on, so I asked them maybe to try to rewrite it. They told me someone else had asked them the same and this was the rewrite; so we left it there. It would have been philosophy, more than likely, where ambiguity can destroy an attempted argument completely.

I think your English teacher's ok, btw. My wife's a teacher. At the moment, she's teaching counselling, one day a week. That's because she's come back from retirement. She corrects people when she thinks they deserve it, I think. That is, "deserve" in the positive sense. She internally and externally moderates work too, for various colleges and universities. She says some teachers don't think it's appropriate to correct students when they're counselling students. [Empathy!] However, she believes it should be a matter of necessity because, supposedly, they're being trained to act in a professional capacity and produce intelligible reports and so forth. In all likelihood, nine out of ten will never make it through all the stages and levels they have to learn at.  They'll never be able to act in a professional capacity as counsellors but even so, what they do learn can be useful if they become nurses or .... er .... teachers.

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History-Repeats wrote:

You want consistency?  Go to the climate thread.  Six years and still on topic.

Dat's because it's run by a breedin Zina.

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I would argue there is also the problem of the teacher not knowing when the student needs help. I’m not an especially vocal or social person, and when I need help I would sooner go home and YouTube my problem then ask the teacher for help, and so far it’s worked out well. (Not saying this is the teacher’s fault, btw, if you need help it falls on you to ask)

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InsertInterestingNameHere wrote:

I would argue there is also the problem of the teacher not knowing when the student needs help. I’m not an especially vocal or social person, and when I need help I would sooner go home and YouTube my problem then ask the teacher for help, and so far it’s worked out well. (Not saying this is the teacher’s fault, btw, if you need help it falls on you to ask)

You seem like a pretty mature and resourceful person, though. Another thing is that kids aren't being trained to be resourceful and that's the parents. They're kept too safe and that's a problem which will amplify through the generations. Kids who were kept too safe will be too scared and nervous to allow any freedom at all to their own kids and so on.

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MelvinGarvey wrote:

I advise you. (verb)

I seek an advice. (noun)

Well done sir! Well done!!

You're a scholar and a gentleman, sir. A gentleman and a scholar. I say again, sir  ...... 

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Although, perhaps, "you seek advice". But never mind.

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Gotta be honest, I have never heard advice used as a singular noun. “I seek advice” sounds much more natural than “I seek an advice”, but, now that I think about it, it makes sense.

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It's because "advice" in the English language always takes the singular. We can ask for advice, which can be limitless, so there isn't any such thing as "an advice". We can say "a piece of advice", though.

We like shillings. Shillings and florins are extremely ancient in origin. Most of Europe had things like Schillings, skillings, florints and so on. We just kept them until 1972, cos we liked them so much.

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History-Repeats wrote:

Cos?  Too much internet methinks.

Not at all. They write the excruciating "cause", on the internet. It was one of the things I really objected to when reading someone's attempt at a complex argument, because "cause", as an abbreviation for "because", is immediately ambiguous.

English is read chronologically. You don't want to be referring to the end of a sentence to see what a word at the beginning is supposed to mean.  I used to ask people for either because or cos. At the very least, if they insist on "'cause", it needs the apostrophe to be immediately intelligible. Cos doesn't need an apostrophe.

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History-Repeats wrote:

Cos?  Too much internet me thinks.

At first I looked up the word “cos” because I remembered it was an actual word (abbreviation for the math term “cosine”) but I found this tidbit of information: the word “cos” (the abbreviation of the words “because”) was first recorded to have been invented (or at least said) in the mid 1600s, and was used very frequently during the 1800s, and has now fallen off and at a low. Interesting thing I just wanted to share lmao

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I can understand that. The only bit of rural NE States I ever knew was around Wolfboro. Things remained the same there for years but now I believe it's full of film stars.

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"Cos" is probably at a low due to the internet. I would think that in the UK, it's used in speech perhaps more than because. However, it won't be very accessible to many people whose first language isn't English. I use abbreviations when writing on the internet, because I know where the apostrophe key is, I'm trying, in my miniature way, to educate people on the use of English and, moreover, I champion English English, rather than U.S. English.

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You know, when I met my wife, in early 1986, after being married to a Canadian. I couldn't understand her very well. That's even though she and I were born only about 100 miles apart. I'd lived in Wigan, in Lancashire, for a few years, with my Canadian wife. I'd just about got used to the barbarous tongue they employ round here and along came Christine, who was born exactly one mile from the edge of Wigan, in a rural area dominated by Bolton, and she spoke differently from anything I'd heard before. She came from a little village outside Westhoughton. Westhoughton is "Howfen" and it's where they famously cut the cow's head off, when the poor beast had it stuck in a gate, rather than damage the gate.

That is, thee cut coo's yed off.

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An owl, to Christine, is a wol.

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In my own opinion, the most stressful or detrimental thing for any person on this site, period, is the game itself.

But maybe that's just me.

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Ahm clempt; ahm gewin feth' jackbit. Thanks feth' crack.

(Wiganese)

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Optimissed wrote:

An owl, to Christine, is a wol.

I mean, you say owl like “ow-wool”, so saying “wol” (pronounced “wool”, I presume?) makes a bit of sense.

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Well this turned out well. 

Looks like half the folks here need Dr Frasier Crane the psychiatrist and the other need Kelsey Grammer nazi. Two in one.  

The only thing missing now is Eric Cartman.