All Things in Moderation

Define "numerous times".

In my tribe have word for three, then follow many.

Yet, there is much more trolling now, and I hadn't even heard of a sockpuppet back then. Somehow the other forums I visit have managed to allow discussion and fun, while prohibiting trolling.

Also, sure, moderation decisions are not easy. But that does not mean we should remove ourselves from this debate and apply a laissez-faire approach to moderation either.

mosai Member Since: Jan 15, 2014

palm_beetle Member Since: Jan 13, 2014

Nuff said really.

Moderator! Over here!! 

*Raises hand with limp wrist*

You must be pro abortion

While I might agree on the sockpuppet thing (mind a few obvious people some time back), I don't agree with the trolling part considering it is really a bunch of spamming kids in the forums currently.  

We like you ben and would never back you into a corner.

Well, IMO, spamming is just trolling with another name.

That's a nice opinion, but the true definition of spamming and trolling is quite different (which most people bend to their own benefit).

I don't compare Phishing and a network worm as they are quite different (they may sometimes be interacting, but they are not the same).

Apples and oranges.

Well, I stand corrected. Please take all previous references of mine to trolls and trolling to mean trolls and spammers, and trolling and spamming, respectively.

Well, every forum topic is like a TV channel to me, if I don't like one, I ignore it.

I don't mind moderate trolling at all, but some people is just aggressive, and can scare away existing premium members. It's happened to me, fortunately there's a lot of kind members that fended off the cyberbully in question.

Other than that, I never had a problem with them, and the few times I have talked to them has been to help me. 

Are you referring to the community and the number of sockpuppets in the past compared to now or are you asking about who they were back then?

I rest my case.

Lets see here.

The farthest back that I remember was some leftovers from Cheater_1 and his later incarnation Teacher_1 back in 2009.  Don't need to go into him very much as he is the most infamous.

There were a lot of sockpuppet people all named ChessTrainor, ChessAssistant and other derivatives who spammed threads of how 1.Na3 is the best opening ever conceived eventually leading to my eventual calling his bluff and I posted several demolitions I did when we played because of his opening play.  Funny part was that he never played another game on chess.com since and only posted 9 move chesscube checkmates with 1.Na3.  The threads are gone now since the restructuring of chess.com.  Shame too as there were lots of discussion of the opening with many titled players.

Some of the more recent people remember the various Parham entities.  Prior to that used to be GambitKing and all the Latvian Gambit threads which were way more fierce.  Sadly those are largely gone with the banning of GambitKing.  I don't think he is missed very much though since at the end of his account time he harrassed Jeremy Silman until he left the site.

There were the I will spin everything you say so that you sound like a Nazi people like Suggo.

Some of the older mods who hijacked the threads.

Windows-7_ and International Chess which started a site war essentially (which ironically enough began with a complaint of a 200 block limit).

BoobyFischer

A few off the top of my head.

Well that strategy (with the ChessTrainor guy) was not working and it was getting to the point where the most active threads were all 1.Na3 threads on the feed (and back when the opening discussion board was actually a respectable board).  Eventually he had something like 5-6 accounts that were all opening threads and commenting on them as well.  Pretty sure he was IP banned prior to the site restructure.

The up/down voting system is what youtube has done and the quality of commenting is yahoo level and is reduced to a mere popularity contest.  You don't want that system here.

A filter system is interesting, but it is not in place already on the site so is difficult to implement and probably will not be.  You can do a filtering protocol on your own though if you so choose.  In addition, blocking does deal with most of that problem anyways.

Welcome back musacha.

I don't deny there are ways around it, but I do know that the site has done that before along with the restriction of posting rights.

It's too late in the night for me to closeread all of this, and I probably won't tomorrow either, but I just wanted to hop in and say/point out/reiterate that I personally believe that it's much better if threads are locked with some sort of an explanatory note at the end by a moderator (and offending [comments deleted] of course) instead of their complete removal as is common practice now so people will learn how to read maps better

That makes total sense to me, heinzie. But maybe the removal of a cornucopia of offending posts is more trouble than it's worth?