Blocking Members Manifesto

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Ubik42
Irontiger wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:

if you allow unlimited blocks, then the combined number of blocks could eventually exceed the possible positions on a chess board.

This would be bad, because then chess.com would have to purchase another hard drive and all you non paying members would have to see more advertising (to subsidise us paying members).

Hum... No. Do the math again. The max number of blocks is a poor square function of the number of members, when the number of possible positions is more like an exponential.

Assuming the storage of blocks is made by writing the names of people blocked under each user's profile (which is clearly suboptimal), with an average name of 10 octets and 100 000 players that block each other in the group (that's already a good time spent clicking 'block') it makes a poor 100 Go. That's nothing compared to the games database.

Storage place is really not the problem with many blocks. The absence of interactions between players eg the difficulty to match them.

You forget that once everyone is blocking everyone, there will be an exponential ballooning of sockpuppets to evade all the blockages and allow games to be played. Once you have created millions of puppets blocking millions of users + each of those users millions of sockpuppets, which are themseleves blocking all the other sockpuppets, the combined total is going increase the hard drive density to something approaching critical black hole mass. Back of the envelope calculations give a Scwarzchild radius of nearly .31415926 inches.

Games databases, on the other hand, are pretty trivial, what with the hashing of duplicate positions and linking to existing Capablanca endgames, which pretty much cover all possibilites anyway.

Irontiger
Ubik42 wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:

if you allow unlimited blocks, then the combined number of blocks could eventually exceed the possible positions on a chess board.

This would be bad, because then chess.com would have to purchase another hard drive and all you non paying members would have to see more advertising (to subsidise us paying members).

Hum... No. Do the math again. The max number of blocks is a poor square function of the number of members, when the number of possible positions is more like an exponential.

Assuming the storage of blocks is made by writing the names of people blocked under each user's profile (which is clearly suboptimal), with an average name of 10 octets and 100 000 players that block each other in the group (that's already a good time spent clicking 'block') it makes a poor 100 Go. That's nothing compared to the games database.

Storage place is really not the problem with many blocks. The absence of interactions between players eg the difficulty to match them.

You forget that once everyone is blocking everyone, there will be an exponential ballooning of sockpuppets to evade all the blockages and allow games to be played. Once you have created millions of puppets blocking millions of users + each of those users millions of sockpuppets, which are themseleves blocking all the other sockpuppets, the combined total is going increase the hard drive density to something approaching critical black hole mass. Back of the envelope calculations give a Scwarzchild radius of nearly .31415926 inches.

Games databases, on the other hand, are pretty trivial, what with the hashing of duplicate positions and linking to existing Capablanca endgames, which pretty much cover all possibilites anyway.

And then, paying membership becomes compulsory.

And mods start racketting users to remove them from others' block list.

And then the universe collapses.

 

 

 

                                                                                                                                    OK. OK. I'm out.

dmxn2k
kjuttaP wrote:

Blocking people in an open forum, is undemocratic and cowardly. It borders on the attitude: "Lets shoot anything we dont like". Hello US.
Well here i shoot in to many directions, i guess. 

Actually, blocking people from oneself and only oneself is the staple of freedom. If I don't wish to associate with you, I don't have to, and I will leave the rest to choose as they wish.

 THAT is democracy. What you are proposing is that no one be free to choose who they associate with, and that is tyranny.

dmxn2k
Irontiger wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
Irontiger wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:

if you allow unlimited blocks, then the combined number of blocks could eventually exceed the possible positions on a chess board.

This would be bad, because then chess.com would have to purchase another hard drive and all you non paying members would have to see more advertising (to subsidise us paying members).

Hum... No. Do the math again. The max number of blocks is a poor square function of the number of members, when the number of possible positions is more like an exponential.

Assuming the storage of blocks is made by writing the names of people blocked under each user's profile (which is clearly suboptimal), with an average name of 10 octets and 100 000 players that block each other in the group (that's already a good time spent clicking 'block') it makes a poor 100 Go. That's nothing compared to the games database.

Storage place is really not the problem with many blocks. The absence of interactions between players eg the difficulty to match them.

You forget that once everyone is blocking everyone, there will be an exponential ballooning of sockpuppets to evade all the blockages and allow games to be played. Once you have created millions of puppets blocking millions of users + each of those users millions of sockpuppets, which are themseleves blocking all the other sockpuppets, the combined total is going increase the hard drive density to something approaching critical black hole mass. Back of the envelope calculations give a Scwarzchild radius of nearly .31415926 inches.

Games databases, on the other hand, are pretty trivial, what with the hashing of duplicate positions and linking to existing Capablanca endgames, which pretty much cover all possibilites anyway.

And then, paying membership becomes compulsory.

And mods start racketting users to remove them from others' block list.

And then the universe collapses.

 

 

 

                                                                                                                                    OK. OK. I'm out.

 

Why can't I hold all these strawmen?

Doggy_Style

Why can't I hold all these strawmen?


That would be because you don't recognise humour.

dmxn2k
Doggy_Style wrote:

Why can't I hold all these strawmen?

 

That would be because you don't recognise humour.

Why can't I hold all these jokes?

Doggy_Style
dmxn2k wrote:
Doggy_Style wrote:

Why can't I hold all these strawmen?

 

That would be because you don't recognise humour.

Why can't I hold all these jokes?

You got it. Laughing

dmxn2k
Doggy_Style wrote:
dmxn2k wrote:
Doggy_Style wrote:

Why can't I hold all these strawmen?

 

That would be because you don't recognise humour.

Why can't I hold all these jokes?

You got it.

Cool

SPARTANEMESIS

Some strawmen have egos like black holes.  Holding them is not the course of action I would recommend.  

ilikeflags

humour and democracy. block everyone.

Doggy_Style
ilikeflags wrote:

 block everyone.

Too easy.

ilikeflags

and democratic

skakmadurinn

I have never  block a member. I'm here to play chess! Why in the world did you block 200 mebers? And want to block more?

ilikeflags

because!

Annabella1

I would BLOCK this post.....is nonsense

ilikeflags

junebug you cray cray

913Glorax12

Who knew that so many chess players are complainers! We have threads- Stalemate shouldn't exist, Saying gg is rude, ect. and  now, more blocks!

oh boy!

SPARTANEMESIS

I've known some egomaniacs in my time, however there are at least a few here who could probably give them some serious competion.  One guy who worked for me (I'll just call him Idiot for the sake of anonymity) was a bitter, racist, instigator; yet he was head-and-shoulders above any of my other employees' abilities.  Idiot was the oldest with a lot of experience, and he carefully concealed his racism unaware at first that I could see right through him.  He was also an exploitive, oppresive, sycophantic, sociopathic sob and I wanted to fire him.  The CEOs wouldn't allow it saying he was too valuable.  Of course they were all far away most of the time and when they were near Idiot's nose would get very brown indeed.  They did not have to deal with women's tears and guys who wanted to harm the fool.  I suspect Idiot would even provoke employees whose competition he feared in an effort to have them outed because, like Narcissus, he loved his position so.  Eventually Idiot became very cautious in my presence.

  In hindsight I think one of the problems was that I was part of a business that placed too much importance on its top producers who were often problematic, manipulative, whiners.  In my opinion the backbone of any business is not the whining elitists who often need special considerations and are more trouble than they're worth, but the people who usually respectfully work in harmony with their peers.  These are the ones who will help a business evolve, rather than causing a regression in the people as well as the business' finances.  

  If a member here encounters a lot of shameless fools maybe they do need a higher number for their block manifesto.  Although I feel the need to block no one (it's not my style), I don't expect everyone to behave like me.  Even though I do not recall the source of the following question, or the precise wording, I still like it: 

"Can a man without shame really be called a human being?"

ilikeflags

that was such an amazing post.

ilikeflags

spartanemisass you post is better than a fried egg.