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I personally don't believe Gen Y was bad. A lot of people in Gen Z are incredibly stupid, but Gen Alpha is even worse. And it keeps getting worse each year.

I never said Gen Y was "bad". They are where the decline begins. The early Gen Y (1980s) tend to be better than the late Gen Y (early to mid 90s). It's not like a switch is flipped and in one day, all goes to bleep. There was an overall gradual decline and Gen Y was that 15 to 20 year gradual decline.

Well, most things weren't automated in the 80s and 90s. Most people weren't lazy as well.

I never said Gen Y was "bad". They are where the decline begins. The early Gen Y (1980s) tend to be better than the late Gen Y (early to mid 90s). It's not like a switch is flipped and in one day, all goes to bleep. There was an overall gradual decline and Gen Y was that 15 to 20 year gradual decline.

Things don't have to be automated for people to expect things to be done for them. And keep in mind, we are talking born in the 90s, not working in the 90s.

For example, you give someone a stack of papers to file away, and they complain that those papers weren't already sorted for them by date. Like their boss should have done that for them.

Or you hire a teacher born in the mid 90s. They will teach 4th grade starting with the 24-25 school year. They are told they must write lesson plans for each week. They complain that since they were replacing Jane Doe's class because Jane Doe was retiring, they shouldn't have to write their own lesson plans. Jane Doe should give them hers!

Garbage like that.

I have a teacher who was born January 2000 iirc

And I wouldn't be surprised if she complains a lot. Not to you kids, but to their boss or at staff meetings that you are not involved in. Why do we have to do blahdy-blah? This is stupid. I shouldn't have to walk around the room when I can just sit or stand up front and watch them.

My wife works with multiple teachers born in the mid-90s. When one teacher was fired, they needed everyone to give up one planning period each day for the next two weeks until the replacement started. They have 5 classes and 3 planning periods at their private school. Not like public schools where they only get 1 planning period. First thing one of the Gen Y/Gen Z cusp teachers said was (paraphrasing, not quoting) "I'm not doing that - that's not my job" straight to her boss's face in the staff meeting in front of the rest of the middle-school teachers. That was this past fall, like maybe October or so.

Well, most things weren't automated in the 80s and 90s. Most people weren't lazy as well.

And I wouldn't be surprised if she complains a lot. Not to you kids, but to their boss or at staff meetings that you are not involved in. Why do we have to do blahdy-blah? This is stupid. I shouldn't have to walk around the room when I can just sit or stand up front and watch them.

My wife works with multiple teachers born in the mid-90s. When one teacher was fired, they needed everyone to give up one planning period each day for the next two weeks until the replacement started. They have 5 classes and 3 planning periods at their private school. Not like public schools where they only get 1 planning period. First thing one of the Gen Y/Gen Z cusp teachers said was (paraphrasing, not quoting) "I'm not doing that - that's not my job" straight to her boss's face in the staff meeting in front of the rest of the middle-school teachers. That was this past fall, like maybe October or so.

Things don't have to be automated for people to expect things to be done for them. And keep in mind, we are talking born in the 90s, not working in the 90s.

For example, you give someone a stack of papers to file away, and they complain that those papers weren't already sorted for them by date. Like their boss should have done that for them.

Or you hire a teacher born in the mid 90s. They will teach 4th grade starting with the 24-25 school year. They are told they must write lesson plans for each week. They complain that since they were replacing Jane Doe's class because Jane Doe was retiring, they shouldn't have to write their own lesson plans. Jane Doe should give them hers!

Garbage like that.