idk about blackjack, sorry. this is a chess forum
Chess Researcher/Historian Needed!
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blackplaysfirst wrote:
@long_quach then why don't you go start your own campaign against ghettopoly, in a ghettopoly forum or discord group or wherever. i wish you good luck. stop trolling this thread
I like Ghettoopoly because it tells the truth, a negative truth, but truth nevertheless.
I don't like you because you lie.
blackplaysfirst wrote:
idk about blackjack, sorry. this is a chess forum
Yes, a chess forum.
Not a "Chess is racist" forum.
This thread is such a joke. This subject comes up every few month or so, and eventually just devolves into a shouting match of insults.
@blackplaysfirst
Don't you get the joke?
https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/chess-researcher-historian-needed?page=2#comment-88524449
Chess is not the bad guy, you are the bad guy.
You defame chess to paint yourself as the good guy.
@soupsailor72 well this time i'm trying to talk about real history, with some real sources and references. am looking for more information on any of this lot <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berlin_Pleiades> regarding their writing on society.
ummm... I love chess. that's why i'm here. and i'm not really interested in who's a good guy and who's a bad guy. would just like to represent 19th century chess history accurately based on the sources, and make a recommendation accordingly. looking for help with that, not trolls. thank you.
long_quach wrote:
@blackplaysfirst
Chess is not the bad guy, you are the bad guy.
You want to help Black people?
Teach them chess. This so-called racist game.
Oh, there is already a movie about it.
The Mighty Pawns (1987)
blackplaysfirst wrote:
this would have been a relevant comment in the 1800s, when this rule didn't exist in the world of chess. Either the black pieces or the white pieces could play first, it didn't matter to players at all. Then came a generation of German chess players who were also into scholarly pursuits. In the name of standardization they created a new set of universal guidelines for chess notation. And in the name of the pseudo science (social Darwinism, scientific racism) they invented the rule that white should play first. For decades, chess players outside of Germany resisted this change, no doubt arguing "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". But as imperialism and the colonization of Africa advanced, so did white supremacy and the rule stuck. Time to change it.
You lie through your teeth.
You are the supposed "good guy" who will fight
pseudo science
racism
imperialism
white supremacy
Do you think your buzzwords is going help you in a street fight? Think again.
long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:
@blackplaysfirst
Chess is not the bad guy, you are the bad guy.
You want to help Black people?
Teach them chess. This so-called racist game.
Oh, there is already a movie about it.
The Mighty Pawns (1987)
Teach them this (in your words) pseudo-scientific, racist, imperialist, white supremacist chess game.
That is the best thing you can do for Black people.
And there is already a movie about it.
those are not my words at all. you are taking them out of context. I was speaking about one rule within the game of chess that came into existence at a particular time in history which, it is well established, was the height of scientific racism and ideologies of natural racial superiority/inferiority. do you understand the difference between what i wrote, and what you insinuated?
blackplaysfirst wrote:
But as imperialism and the colonization of Africa advanced, so did white supremacy and the rule stuck. Time to change it.
So you are going to change the rule to fight against
imperialism and white supremacy.
blackplaysfirst wrote:
A customary tradeoff at that time could have been to cede the first move. But what if someone thought ivory was lucky and wouldn't mind going second? thanks for the input
Wesley Snipes said, "Always bet on Black."
long_quach wrote:
blackplaysfirst wrote:
But as imperialism and the colonization of Africa advanced, so did white supremacy and the rule stuck. Time to change it.
So you are going to change the rule to fight against
imperialism and white supremacy.
What you want already exists in Shogi.
There is no "Black" and there is no "White". It's Japanese on Japanese crime, remember?
Just make the chess pieces like Shogi.
Flip a coin to see who goes first. One who goes first has the Queen on the left.
<What you want already exists in Shogi>
Ok thank you for the suggestion. i'll check it out.
blackplaysfirst wrote:
the height of scientific racism and ideologies of natural racial superiority/inferiority.
Just because one person thinks he is superior to another person
doesn't make it true.
Does it?
long_quach wrote:
blackplaysfirst wrote:
the height of scientific racism and ideologies of natural racial superiority/inferiority.
Just because one person thinks he is superior to another person
doesn't make it true.
Does it?
Why do you make it true for the person who thinks so?
long_quach wrote:
long_quach wrote:
blackplaysfirst wrote:
the height of scientific racism and ideologies of natural racial superiority/inferiority.
Just because one person thinks he is superior to another person
doesn't make it true.
Does it?
Why do you make it true for the person who thinks so?
And that doesn't even make sense.
If I am superior to you, I'll let you go first.
I wonder if the rule really was made during the time of colonization, then why no modern day historian is talking about it, especially now where things like racism are taken very seriously. And even if the rule was made at that time. What is supposed to happen? Change the rule so that black goes first?
Blackjack.
Why is it called Black Jack?
There are other possibilities.
Red Jack
Red Queen
Black Queen
Red King
Red Queen
10 + Ace
They all make 21.
Why does it have to be Blackjack?