This thread began as a request from Erik, who abandoned the thread when it became clear that tradition trumps innovation in certain matters.
Another vote for calling it what it is: correspondence chess.
It may look a little different but its still the same animal.
One downside to this though, is that it could put an end to the debate threads (and resulting flame wars) about weather or not its ethical to use opening books/databases and move the pieces around.
"slow ball chess" --- nice, but it hasn't a slow ball's chance in Heck of winning this "contest." Surely you must see that. (Apologies for calling you "Shirley" --- no offense intended...)
Lol I know it doesn't have a chance of winning...and I hope the nickname Shirley doesn't stick either! That name would be a hard one to shake off, lol!
Signed Shirley 
Sticks and stones ... who's as bad as Leslie Nielsen? Maybe he who posted "Duh-Chess," and later insisted on "explaining" it!
Patronising I can be....plagiarising never. :p
This thread is old and tired.
Sumary: The term "Online Chess" is inadequate. The term " Electronic Correspondence Chess" is appropriate. Whether or not the electronic correspondence is through email notifications, chess.com website notifications, or text alerts (push alerts) through your smart phone, tablet, or other mobile device. It is indeed correspondence, even though it is electronic, instead of pen, paper, and the post office.
B/c it is a form correspondence chess, Traditional correspondence rules apply, which means research can be done through books and data bases but you still have to make the decision for the move. computer engines cannot do this for you. One reason for the rule to allow research is there is no way to police it. So the research is just made permissible. By contrast "Live" chess should replicate OTB rules and not allow research or analysis during the game.
However appropriate the term " Electronic Correspondence Chess" maybe, it is rather long so the abrivated form "ECC" should be used.
Eric, please change the name of Online to ECC and end this thread.
That is my 2¢ worth!
Sticks and stones ... who's as bad as Leslie Nielsen? Maybe he who posted "Duh-Chess," and later insisted on "explaining" it!
Patronising I can be....plagiarising never. :p
Plagiarize! Let no one else's words evade your eyes! Remember why the good Lord made your eyes --- so don't Shade your eyes! Just plagiarize, plagiarise, plagiarise! ....but remember, please always to call it "research."
Anytime chess would not be a bad option if correspondence chess is ruled out. Daily chess is bad because there is the three day time option.
The argument is moot. Apart from anything else language evolves through usage and this is a fluid process. You are not happy with the term Online Chess, yet you use it and we understand. Others use Turn-Based Chess and are understood. Maybe one day the three words which communicate it simply and clearly will be recognised as Chess, Dot and Com.
I either play chess on the board or online, so online chess is absolutely fine with me.
Who is "Dot" and who is this "Com?" And why should we chess players name anything after them? --- not to mention that this "Com" guy sounds unAmerican somehow ......
I am warming to him already then. :)
The internet is not the Pony Express, but electronic communications are correspondence whether through direct person-to-person messages or via a website. Hence correspondence chess can be played online just as it has been played via telegraph, post card, and email.
Yeah, and that's why I said that all games on the internet could have correspondence thrown in front of them. Which is what makes it pointless.
Yeah, and that's why I said that all games on the internet could have correspondence thrown in front of them. Which is what makes it pointless.
Yes, I am just signing up for Correspondence World of Warcraft and Correspondence Texas Hold 'Em.
The only real difference between live chess and online chess is live chess doesn't have a submit button. (Although it should in the premove area, along with deleting a move instead of having to delete the entire line.)
The rules are very different. In Oneline chess you are allowed to use books and data bases and analyse on a seperate board. Live chess is an attempt to duplicate OTB chess.
I'm speaking on a technological level. The game play itself is the same.
The reason you are allowed to use those items in Online chess is mainly based on the fact that you have the time to.
Also if the time controls are long enough for live chess you could analyse on a separate board. Who would know.
You're right in that live chess tries to duplicate OTB, but online chess has difference feature than the traditional letters could ever have, and it appears they will continue to change and add features to online chess as the technology allows for it. (At least here, where the name is in dispute) Leaving only a remnant of what it once was.
For example in real correspondence chess, can you make a premove? it's not like this is the limit to how it will change forever. A new term for a new way is more appropriate. As time controls and not letters or distance still remain the true difference, I don't see why sticking with an outdated term should be used.
Actually I used to play postal chess and you could send conditional moves but it was not like the electronic one where they are not aware of them till they make their move and it pops up - you were effectively giving them free analysis. There was a famous postal game where white sent e4 and black sent back "b6 and after anything by white Bb7 the next move" - white of course played 2) Ba6 and 3) Bxb7
Anytime chess would not be a bad option if correspondence chess is ruled out. Daily chess is bad because there is the three day time option.
Anytime chess is just as bad as online chess for almost the same reason. You of course play chess here online, likewise you can play chess anytime.
For daily chess, the games are set in intervals of days. As the definition goes, "covering the period of or based on a day."
This is why I suggested multi-day chess. As you set the intervals in multiples of days.
The internet is not the Pony Express, but electronic communications are correspondence whether through direct person-to-person messages or via a website. Hence correspondence chess can be played online just as it has been played via telegraph, post card, and email.
Yeah, and that's why I said that all games on the internet could have correspondence thrown in front of them. Which is what makes it pointless.
why does that make it pointless?
Snar brings up an interesting "point" leading to my speculating --- What IS it that makes an activity "pointed" rather than "pointless?" (Just now, my # 2 pencil was pointless, but then my battery-operated pencil sharpener rendered it "pointed" again.) (True story!)
OK: Chess: sure we Love it, but is there a "point" to it? Is it simply, like any other "sport," a way of waging war sans bloodshed? If so, as it suddenly occurs to me, then that's the whole point, of course! (Also explains why so many more men than women play it.
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The only real difference between live chess and online chess is live chess doesn't have a submit button. (Although it should in the premove area, along with deleting a move instead of having to delete the entire line.)
The rules are very different. In Oneline chess you are allowed to use books and data bases and analyse on a seperate board. Live chess is an attempt to duplicate OTB chess.
I'm speaking on a technological level. The game play itself is the same.
The reason you are allowed to use those items in Online chess is mainly based on the fact that you have the time to.
Also if the time controls are long enough for live chess you could analyse on a separate board. Who would know.
You're right in that live chess tries to duplicate OTB, but online chess has difference feature than the traditional letters could ever have, and it appears they will continue to change and add features to online chess as the technology allows for it. (At least here, where the name is in dispute) Leaving only a remnant of what it once was.
For example in real correspondence chess, can you make a premove? it's not like this is the limit to how it will change forever. A new term for a new way is more appropriate. As time controls and not letters or distance still remain the true difference, I don't see why sticking with an outdated term should be used.
I made many conditional moves when I played via postcard. Premove in online blitz is equivalent to a conditional move that begins "if any," then ...
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Sticks and stones ... who's as bad as Leslie Nielsen? Maybe he who posted "Duh-Chess," and later insisted on "explaining" it!
