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I read somewhere that Elon Musk wasn’t interested/ bothered about chess.
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

I am putting facts on the table, bringing stats, while you are saying "I feel like that must be wrong" I am stubborn on this topic because I am sick of the dumb stuff our country is doing, and I know that is will screw my future, you seem to be rejoicong as we pump the defeceit.

Bro I never said debt was good I'm just saying you cant just cut stuff and expect bad things not to happen to the us economy (which is paying off the dept) you have to be extremely careful which even the people getting stuff aren't doing and somehow the Ukraine war isn't cost efficient ?

When the information gathered is invaluable for the military ????? And could give a return on investment ?????????

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I read somewhere that Elon Musk wasn’t interested/ bothered about chess.

I'd believe that, he is a busy guy, he has an account though.

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I read somewhere that Elon Musk wasn’t interested/ bothered about chess.

He said it was too simple but it's just copium

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I read somewhere that Elon Musk wasn’t interested/ bothered about chess.

I'd believe that, he is a busy guy, he has an account though.

He's busy enough to pay someone else to be good for him so e can pretend though lol I bet he wants to be good but just can't

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

I am putting facts on the table, bringing stats, while you are saying "I feel like that must be wrong" I am stubborn on this topic because I am sick of the dumb stuff our country is doing, and I know that is will screw my future, you seem to be rejoicong as we pump the defeceit.

Bro I never said debt was good I'm just saying you cant just cut stuff and expect bad things not to happen to the us economy (which is paying off the dept) you have to be extremely careful which even the people getting stuff aren't doing and somehow the Ukraine war isn't cost efficient ?

When the information gathered is invaluable for the military ????? And could give a return on investment ?????????

As I said if you are spending more than you are making, you have a problem, so we better get DOGEing.

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RedRaider12345 wrote:
I read somewhere that Elon Musk wasn’t interested/ bothered about chess.

I'd believe that, he is a busy guy, he has an account though.

He's busy enough to pay someone else to flae being good for him though lol I bet he wants to be good but just can't

As I said earlier he is illegially bad at chess, so not sure you want to go down that road.

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

I am putting facts on the table, bringing stats, while you are saying "I feel like that must be wrong" I am stubborn on this topic because I am sick of the dumb stuff our country is doing, and I know that is will screw my future, you seem to be rejoicong as we pump the defeceit.

Bro I never said debt was good I'm just saying you cant just cut stuff and expect bad things not to happen to the us economy (which is paying off the dept) you have to be extremely careful which even the people getting stuff aren't doing and somehow the Ukraine war isn't cost efficient ?

When the information gathered is invaluable for the military ????? And could give a return on investment ?????????

As I said if you are spending more than you are making, you have a problem, so we better get DOGEing.

Not always it depends how much more besides it depends what it's on and what it does honestly information is valuable enough as it is since it makes returns of investments in the long run for example

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

I am putting facts on the table, bringing stats, while you are saying "I feel like that must be wrong" I am stubborn on this topic because I am sick of the dumb stuff our country is doing, and I know that is will screw my future, you seem to be rejoicong as we pump the defeceit.

Bro I never said debt was good I'm just saying you cant just cut stuff and expect bad things not to happen to the us economy (which is paying off the dept) you have to be extremely careful which even the people getting stuff aren't doing and somehow the Ukraine war isn't cost efficient ?

When the information gathered is invaluable for the military ????? And could give a return on investment ?????????

As I said if you are spending more than you are making, you have a problem, so we better get DOGEing.

Not always it depends how much more besides it depends what it's on and what it does honestly information is valuable enough as it is since it makes returns of investments in the long run for example

The debt is only going to grow if we do nothing about it.

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

I am putting facts on the table, bringing stats, while you are saying "I feel like that must be wrong" I am stubborn on this topic because I am sick of the dumb stuff our country is doing, and I know that is will screw my future, you seem to be rejoicong as we pump the defeceit.

Bro I never said debt was good I'm just saying you cant just cut stuff and expect bad things not to happen to the us economy (which is paying off the dept) you have to be extremely careful which even the people getting stuff aren't doing and somehow the Ukraine war isn't cost efficient ?

When the information gathered is invaluable for the military ????? And could give a return on investment ?????????

As I said if you are spending more than you are making, you have a problem, so we better get DOGEing.

Not always it depends how much more besides it depends what it's on and what it does honestly information is valuable enough as it is since it makes returns of investments he long run for example

The debt is only going to grow if we do nothing about it.

🙄 You kill what makes the money you can't pay off debt how do you think poor people stay poor

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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

I am putting facts on the table, bringing stats, while you are saying "I feel like that must be wrong" I am stubborn on this topic because I am sick of the dumb stuff our country is doing, and I know that is will screw my future, you seem to be rejoicong as we pump the defeceit.

Bro I never said debt was good I'm just saying you cant just cut stuff and expect bad things not to happen to the us economy (which is paying off the dept) you have to be extremely careful which even the people getting stuff aren't doing and somehow the Ukraine war isn't cost efficient ?

When the information gathered is invaluable for the military ????? And could give a return on investment ?????????

As I said if you are spending more than you are making, you have a problem, so we better get DOGEing.

Not always it depends how much more besides it depends what it's on and what it does honestly information is valuable enough as it is since it makes returns of investments he long run for example

The debt is only going to grow if we do nothing about it.

🙄 You kill what makes the money you can't pay off debt how do you think poor people stay poor

What makes the money is taxes, and DOGE have not gone after them.

badger_song

"May the Stench of Elon be with you."

( blessing from the Temple of Musk)

BigChessplayer665
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today Volkswagon is considered a normal car company, even though it was founded by Hitler, how could Tesla be worse?

Never said Tesla wasn't a good company just that Elon isn't great and that leads to his other businesses not doing ss well as they could be but your also forgetting Tesla is a fairly stable company which means it's hard to crssh

Elon has definately taken a few missteps, but, he's not as bad as hitler.

Bro that's not an excuse you go into politics and manage to get more then 50% of people to dislike you I think there's a pretty good reason for that...

There are also a few reasons to hate Hitler, Volkswagon is doing fine, soon DOGE will be left in the dust, and tesla will do better than ever.

Prob if Elon gets fired then yes I bet Tesla would do fine

Then why did the stock spike when Elon said he eyes still being CEO in 5 years?

Explain the drop in Tesla sales then... It isn't all about stock prices but ev sales are going up ?

Europes mad they have to pay for their own defense.

Nah more like us breaking it's promises

We spend billions of dollars on Europe's defense each year, while they hardly invest any money because they know we will be their dummy and picl up the slack. Trump geniously got them to spend 800 billion on their defense, meaning that we could cut defense costs, then he raised defense spending. What promises have we broken, this is a one sided realtionship, they can tariff us, we can't tariff them, they can mess with Russia and we have to defend them, they can do whatever they want, and we have to fix it, people tell you to get out of one way abusive reationships, why shouldn't the US do the same?

Has military spending deceased in the trump administration ? Or did it increase during trump...

If so your argument isn't a good one

I literally just complained that we increased defense when we had a perfect oppurtunity to decrease it.

Actually selling to European neighbors is profitable for the srmy if anything diverting it decreases profitablity and increases the amount we have to do

you are assuming they are gonna pay us. Why didn't Zelensky accept the rare earth minerals deal?

He did but the first draft basically made Ukraine an indentured servant how is that fair ?

Actually it's cost efficient for us anyway we get to gut military equipment that's just sitting there costing maintenance

we are not giving them the stuff collecting dust, Biden even wanted to deploy soldiers at some point. If Zelensky were smart, he would see that having american citizens who work for the government would make Ukraine more safe, but he didn't. It is fair because we are covering all the costs of the war, and even beffing up his wallet a little, if he doesn't want that, well there is another fair scenario, you pay for your country and we'll pay for ours.

Europe's still doing just as much if not more than us collectively besides.im not going into specifics for why he didn't do the first deal but he actually signed the last draft after the us gave up on full veto people and gave it to Ukraine

The us also gave an unconstitutional draft for Ukraine to which means they couldn't sign it even if they wanted to

That's not true, we paid the lion's share of Europe's war, and what do we get in exchange? Great Britan returning the favor and helping us fight iranian terrorists in the middle east. Oh wait, that never happened.

Boohoo

What we get in return is 30+% of Russia's nuclear fleet blown up safer world for everyone

Boohoo indeed. We should get something in exchange. One thing Trump understands that you don't is that us and Russia weren't always enemies and don't have to be.

We get 1/4 of our enemies go bye bye that's the exchange we can't be too greedy and also collectively Europe has actually payed more then the us https://nypost.com/2025/02/25/world-news/ukraine-war-has-cost-280-billion-whos-paying-the-most/

Are you deaf? Russia does not have to be our enemy.

I feel like the Russian narrative says otherwise ... Doesn't matter if we want peace or not they don't

I would recommend listening to the podcast by daryl cooper, you have a lot of feelings, why not bring a fact for once.

Lol you already lost the argument when your only defence is "bring facts "

you lost first when you just said I fell like that isn't right.

Your my mini point prover

"do your own research " argument is a very good way not to win an argument you lose everytime even if your right

I have heard a lot of feelings coming from leftist propiganda, and when people just start saying "I feel like this" when I am giving you sources you aren't even looking at, you already lost.

I already looked at those types of sources though :/

Iv literally followed the war for a while now

I'm not sure how saying we should fund allies in a war is more profitable then us fighting themselves is leftist propaganda

It should be pretty obvious plus the political consequences are really bad for us we would lose way too much

You low key just said that you haven't and will not look at it.

I never said that ... Besides when the argument is "feeling " and "bring facts " aren't your feelings already getting in the way of an argument in the forst place ? I'm a bit confused but it's kinda like pouting when someone's slightly more stubborn me so they must be wrong

I am putting facts on the table, bringing stats, while you are saying "I feel like that must be wrong" I am stubborn on this topic because I am sick of the dumb stuff our country is doing, and I know that is will screw my future, you seem to be rejoicong as we pump the defeceit.

Bro I never said debt was good I'm just saying you cant just cut stuff and expect bad things not to happen to the us economy (which is paying off the dept) you have to be extremely careful which even the people getting stuff aren't doing and somehow the Ukraine war isn't cost efficient ?

When the information gathered is invaluable for the military ????? And could give a return on investment ?????????

As I said if you are spending more than you are making, you have a problem, so we better get DOGEing.

Not always it depends how much more besides it depends what it's on and what it does honestly information is valuable enough as it is since it makes returns of investments he long run for example

The debt is only going to grow if we do nothing about it.

🙄 You kill what makes the money you can't pay off debt how do you think poor people stay poor

What makes the money is taxes, and DOGE have not gone after them.

It depends on what is canceled if it's things that tend to help the average American it gives them less ability to pay the taxes the problem here is what saves a rich person money typically hurts the average consumer I mean Elon basically just does the same thing Google or Amazon or Walmart ,ect does when trying to save money/make profit

And yes he has its employees that also run the things which Elon targets (which make money )

BigChessplayer665
badger_song wrote:

"May the Stench of Elon be with you."

( blessing from the Temple of Musk)

-stenge of orange remember the death touch

c-exacerbate098765

Ok

UnbanMyKing

he should just play some tropico 6 or something. and you shouldnt try to win any argument with a proud 5th grade dropout, who writes about "leftist propiganda"

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UnbanMyKing wrote:

he should just play some tropico 6 or something. and you shouldnt try to win any argument with a proud 5th grade dropout, who writes about "leftist propiganda"

Yup just for entertainment

TheCatLoversWillRise

hmm idk

Sack_o_Potatoes
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waste of clean air for this planet.

heartwarming

MaestroDelAjedrez2025

What's heartwarming?

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