Dulce et Decorum Est

Even 'the one on the moon' that doesn't wave?

are you referrin' to the one in the Arizona desert with a pint of starch poured over it ?

Yes, flags are a great rallying symbol for many and yet I believe family is MOST important. A great one liner I recall from one of my favorite westerns sums it up well when the actor says " nothing matters so much as blood, all else are but strangers! "  Extra credit to those who can name the movie this comes from !

Sounds like Sam Peckinpah's sentiments: his movies had lots of blood, so I'm guessing: The Wild Bunch.

Gene Hackman playing Nicholas Earp in the film Wyatt Earp (1994).

 Yes !  This is the film I had in mind. Its quite possible that this one liner has been used in other films as well........ I think the doc Holliday character stole the show in this movie as well as in Tombstone with the actors playing Doc in both doing outstanding work !

that was pretty good, prawn, I knew it was Gene Hackman in that film, but would never have remembered the christian name gotta feelin' Kevin Costner repeats it later as well

Reminds me of a Hawaii 5-O episode in which a family of rubes (including Slim Pickins as the father  ) were committing a series of multiple robberies/murders for basically chump change to live on. When McGarrett asked them at the end how they could possibly have killed so many people so brutally, and for so little money, the old lady that led the clan said "They wasn't kin. They was all strangers. It don't count with strangers."

(She also revealed that the reason they killed all their victims was because that made it so they weren't stealing-- you can't steal from someone who's already dead, because a dead person can't own anything.)

why is Kosovo still on the list

Could it be something to do with this? ...

Erik wrote: we aren't an official repository for defining countries or nations.

we allow people to choose their identity and offer as many options as reasonable. sometimes this causes problems when there are disputed countries. but we aren't picking sides - we're a chess site trying to make people happy. we encourage people to resolve their differences in the appropriate political venues, not on our site. 

enjoy!

and still no ulster flag.  although as i have many close friends on both sides of that wall, that one isn't as clear.

Wall? Are you thinking of Berlin? Or China?

but Kosovo is now an official country no? and I mean on your list on 1st page

Kosovo wasn't recognised two years ago when I drew up that list. Can I rewrite history? 

what do you mean?

From whom are you requesting an explanation? What's the QUOTE button for?

this is what I don't understand, sorry

According to the BBC's timeline for Kosovo, we have ...

2008 February - Kosovo declares independence. Serbia says declaration illegal. Europe's major powers and the United States recognise independence.

but also ...

2008 October - The UN General Assembly votes to refer Kosovo's independence declaration to the International Court of Justice.

and ...

2010 July - The International Court of Justice rules that Kosovo's declaration of independence from Serbia in 2008 was not illegal under international law, in response to a Serbian complaint that the secession had violated its territorial integrity.

More to the point, the ISO list of countries  http://www.iso.org/iso/country_codes/iso_3166_code_lists/

   and follow link to English country names and code elements

that I used to produce the table doesn't include Kosovo.

I heard a few months ago that there was some voting of all countries and Kosovo was declared independent. I'm not sure now...