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llama
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:

Which is arbitrary.

That's the rub. If several members think a muted-but-gone members' posts have value and petition the account unmuted (which is the original discussion), then so what? The comments have value for them and potentially for others. Who am I to say they're wrong?

Sure.

I think we have to start with standards.

For example: "no illegal content" is a very reasonable standard for a business (for obvious reasons).

But what else? I think you can't answer that without a clear vision for what you want the community to be... I think for someone like @erik, the community isn't anyone on the forum. It's people on social media, and youtube. It's twitch streamers and their audience. It's Hikaru getting ____ number of retweets.

So there is no clear vision for the forums... so the result is the forums succumb to the lowest common denominator... the children. Pages of inane one word posts.

So you're asking who are you (or I?) to say the current state of things is wrong? Well, apparently we're as good as anyone, considering the CEO couldn't care less beyond avoiding lawsuits regarding e.g. topics that pirate .pdf chess books (which I've seen shut down in the past... probably you have too).

autobunny
duntcare wrote:

i cant even type 

Then don't.  Please.  Thank you. 

duntcare

and erik, i am dead ; - ;

duntcare
autobunny wrote:
duntcare wrote:

i cant even type 

Then don't.  Please.  Thank you. 

If bunni type me typ cuz me hooman 

drmrboss
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:

Which is arbitrary.

That's the rub. If several members think a muted-but-gone members' posts have value and petition the account unmuted (which is the original discussion), then so what? The comments have value for them and potentially for others. Who am I to say they're wrong?

So "If a community gangster was muted,  he can be revived with peititon by his gangster buddies" happy.png 

duntcare

GANSTAA DANCE

duntcare

OOOH DROP IT

duntcare

dont mind me, im hyper 

batgirl
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:

Which is arbitrary.

That's the rub. If several members think a muted-but-gone members' posts have value and petition the account unmuted (which is the original discussion), then so what? The comments have value for them and potentially for others. Who am I to say they're wrong?

Sure.

I think we have to start with standards.

For example: "no illegal content" is a very reasonable standard for a business (for obvious reasons).

But what else? I think you can't answer that without a clear vision for what you want the community to be... I think for someone like @erik, the community isn't anyone on the forum. It's people on social media, and youtube. It's twitch streamers and their audience. It's Hikaru getting ____ number of retweets.

So there is no clear vision for the forums... so the result is the forums succumb to the lowest common denominator... the children. Pages of inane one word posts. Who are you (or I?) to say the current state of things is wrong? Well, apparently we're as good as anyone, considering the CEO couldn't care less beyond avoiding lawsuits regarding e.g. topics that pirate .pdf chess books (which I've seen shut down in the past... probably you have too).

Well, I can't say I disagree with the thrust of your comments.  I have my own opinions (which I'll keep to myself).  As a mod, I do make subjective decisions, or value judgments, but based on objective criteria (which itself is usually open to some interpretation). But dealing with the issue of muted members who leave-- like Erik, I don't see a better solution.  The forums are a conundrum in many ways and there seems no good way through or around it. 

llama

So make me king and what happens?

A mandate against "low effort posts."

And I'd give mods leeway to exercise their judgement... partly because in all honesty chess.com has a very good mod team. I don't like the forums, but their mods are quite good, and I really mean that.

 

But anyway, would the result of my mandate be good? Or would it be a disaster? Probably a little of both... which is the result anytime you make an effort to accomplish something, so I can live with that. It would be a disaster for the majority of traffic i.e. the death of most off topic forums... but what would we gain in exchange? Maybe something amazing... maybe a widely known and respected community centered around chess.

duntcare

GANSTA DANCEEEEEE

duntcare

GANSTA DANCE OUHHH 

batgirl
drmrboss wrote:
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:

Which is arbitrary.

That's the rub. If several members think a muted-but-gone members' posts have value and petition the account unmuted (which is the original discussion), then so what? The comments have value for them and potentially for others. Who am I to say they're wrong?

So "If a community gangster was muted,  he can be revived with peititon by his gangster buddies"  

Sure. They can petition, but if you read what Erik wrote, their petition will be evaluated. It's doubtful such a person's account would be revived.

duntcare

RUSSIAN

llama
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:
batgirl wrote:
llama wrote:

Which is arbitrary.

That's the rub. If several members think a muted-but-gone members' posts have value and petition the account unmuted (which is the original discussion), then so what? The comments have value for them and potentially for others. Who am I to say they're wrong?

Sure.

I think we have to start with standards.

For example: "no illegal content" is a very reasonable standard for a business (for obvious reasons).

But what else? I think you can't answer that without a clear vision for what you want the community to be... I think for someone like @erik, the community isn't anyone on the forum. It's people on social media, and youtube. It's twitch streamers and their audience. It's Hikaru getting ____ number of retweets.

So there is no clear vision for the forums... so the result is the forums succumb to the lowest common denominator... the children. Pages of inane one word posts. Who are you (or I?) to say the current state of things is wrong? Well, apparently we're as good as anyone, considering the CEO couldn't care less beyond avoiding lawsuits regarding e.g. topics that pirate .pdf chess books (which I've seen shut down in the past... probably you have too).

Well, I can't say I disagree with the thrust of your comments.  I have my own opinions (which I'll keep to myself).  As a mod, I do make subjective decisions, or value judgments, but based on objective criteria (which itself is usually open to some interpretation). But dealing with the issue of muted members who leave-- like Erik, I don't see a better solution.  The forums are a conundrum in many ways and there seems no good way through or around it. 

I like @alczervik but I feel like this particular complaint (i.e. return GOP and other's posts) is too niche, and your suggestion of making a formal complaint, resulting in (possibly) a mod simply unmuting his closed account, is very reasonable.

duntcare

RUSSIAN 

llama
GMproposedsolutions wrote:
llama wrote:
GMproposedsolutions wrote:

There are different approaches, one is to consider the complement. Now what is not clear is the 8th card being the only card completing a set and the ONLY card completing whereas before the 8th card there as no set, meaning 4,5,6,7,8,15,1 for example have been picked and then the 8th card is a "3". This is crucial. Logic must never be suppressed.

I probably phrased it poorly.

Let's say 35 cards are blank, and 5 cards have a star (the deck totals 40 cards). A person draws from a shuffled deck until they have all 5 star cards. After they have all 5 they stop and the game is over.

What is the probability that the game ends after the 8th card is drawn?

that's an entirely different question and one that is easier to solve. vastly different. this reduces somewhat to a keno type of problem.

Yeah, I think it's simple... and probably especially simple for someone like you tongue.png

It's about as hard as finding the probability for normal card game stuffs like the probability of being dealt a royal flush in poker. Probably most beginner level statistic students could do this after one class.

llama
Ripley_Osbourne wrote:

. . .

Ultimately, even all what is printed on paper, and even what is painte don walls shall perish, for time spares no one and nothing.

Now, that being said, what do we do? Do we begin now to live as if nothing matters because it'll be all gone in the end and who cares anyway? Or do we keep it up with the idea, future generations should be given witnesses of what we've done, of how we think how we feel and so on?

It's a complicated question

. . .

Well, it's partly a matter of perspective. Sure given an arbitrarily large time frame entire cultures die. Not only nations, but things like language and religions too.

So what does it mater? Well shorten your time frame. It matters very much to the people living it. Actions have real consequences. The consequences need not be eternal to give them weight.

That's one way of answering it.

TheBestBeer_Root

hey llama

Phantom_Beast23

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