Evolution or not?

The Matrix of the Spirit!

We don't walk perfectly in the spirit, that is why we forget.

Not. It has been proved that is is false. Here are a couple articles proving it http://humansarefree.com/2013/12/9-scienctific-facts-prove-theory-of.html?m=0 http://www.remnantofgod.org/creation.htm

We can state some idea and phenomena to support hypothetically the biology phenomena.

1. Brown phenomena in physics.We could guess this phenomena is cause of random mutation.It is amazing where did this phenomena come from.Even this phenomena was named as an exception of thermodynamic law. 
2. Aristotle have guessed that some low level entity have its own consciousness.Also so many tribes believe about non aliving thing have the spirit.

Please refrain from any references to metaphysical existants. Thanks for your cooperation.

<<<Thanks Razz, almost forgot. Even if the first cell built itself without being designed and constructed, how did the cell propagate itself. Mitosis or cell division is an extremely complicated process which is subdivided into for seperate processes? If the First cell hadn't evolved the capability yet then how did that first cell reproduce>>>

OK by coincidence that is something that I've been thinking about over the last year, off and on. I think I'm getting slightly closer.

If you think about the Earth as it would have been before organic matter existed, it would have been composed of inorganic matter. There would have been carbon around, in rocks and in the atmosphere, of course.

The crystalline structure of rocks may/would be a perfect base for inorganic reactions to take place along the crystal boundaries. So what we get is ring reactions which effectively work by shunting ions along the crystalline boundaries. Variables like heat input could make this into a permanent reaction that, in effect, reproduces itself. It's more complicated that this, of course, but I've got a cold and I'm limiting myself to explaining the bare bones.

Then what we need is a substitution mechanism whereby carbon atoms substitute for silicon atoms. That seems perfectly natural and feasible. Note they both have a valency of 4. So what we get is the evolution of a cellular, self-reproducing system, "living" in rocks that have a fairly loose structure of just the right consistency.

Take it from there. Now, how old is the Earth, Einstein?

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Raspberry_Yoghurt wrote:

A more interesting unsolved problem is sleep - the scientists have no idea what it is for, just know it is extremely important biologically. They have a lot of information, but it doesnt make sense really.

Doesnt make sense from a design perspective either. Why would a designer not design us to the stuff he likes us to do all the time instead of just having to lie down a lot? No designer in his right mind would design a machine that was meant to be inactive 1/3 of the time for no reason :)

Also, memories are weird. I have so many. It's hard to believe they are stored in this gelatinous squishy , grayish thing they call the brain. I mean, I have whole WORLDS in my head.

Yeah memory is weird also.

Music is strange also, and I always wondered why the creationists didnt use music instead. For me it's really hard to imagine any reason evolution would have made us like music. Evolution should make us kill stuff to eat and make babies and take care of them and such, not sitting around listening to noise for no reason whatsoever. And why would we prefer listening to rhytms than random noise? Cant even imagine why an organism that likes to listen to rhytms is better at surviving than an organism that doesnt care about it, from a biological perspective music looks like an unnecessary distraction.

On the other hand music is universal so it must be hardwired in the brain. As far as I know, the knowledge of why the genes make a brain that likes music is total zero.

So there you go Einsten, some ammo for you :)

Rythmic = mating call? Like birds? Idk.

Note that the above is an hypothesis and one of many possible hypotheses.

Well, I guess it's as good as the lightning theory, ya know the primordial soup idea, from goo to zoo to you. 😀

It's better. Where did the primordial dinner come from in the 1st place?

Did you join my group yet?

Your ions are an interesting idea though. During embryogenesis potassium pumps produce endogenous electric fields which in turn produce various developing organismal axis and ion channels which then direct cells to their correct locations for embryo developement. Without these electric fields and ion channels it has been shown that the animal doesn't develope correctly.

As far as your polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbon theory I'll probably wait for the book to come out on it. 😊

What was your groups name again? Can't seem to find it. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

I posted you the link to it.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/413662495337233/?fref=nf

Cool lost my password, gotta get a new one.

This is very interesting theme  for me, becouse I have been studing  microbiological activity of forest soil (structure of microbes community and enzyme activity). I understand that soil microbes didn`t change (for example microbes from marshes). Microbes  have very high level of adaptation

Some bacteria have remained unchanged for billions of years, now that's pretty cool. That would suggest to me that our atmosphere and environment has been fairly stable for a long time, at least certain parts of it. The theory goes that cyanobacteria first started producing the oxygen in our atmosphere and that eventually organic material took over. Of course diatoms in the oceans still produce most of our oxygen.

Yes, those little critters are highly adaptive. They can alter their DNA by plasmid transfers( DNA transfer) to other microbes or directly into the environment where other bacteria can pick the DNA up. That's pretty amazing. They usually win the wars against our antibiotics by either mutating so as a loss of site specificity occurs and the antibiotics can't bind or attach to them.

Also antibiotic resistant genes have been around for thousands of years. It's no wonder that we're losing the war on these guys.