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honestly doesn't make sense tho, its equivalent to saying that the najdorf has no theory...

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Rodgy wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:

A lot of people find closed positions boring and stale. For example:

someone may consider that to be boring. Someone may consider that to be exciting. I am the second person. Maybe he doesn't like certain lines that appear very often. It's not up to other people to judge someone else's tastes.

bf5 isn't a kings indian though, should play e5

e5 is the mainline but from Boris Avrukh's latest Gm repertoire book, "it is not played as much at high level anymore due to dxe5". White gets a nagging advantage which I feel does exist, if I knew the theory at least. Bf5 is definitely a king's indian move. e5 was the old mainline. 

The mainline for the fianchetto is apparently a6, Bd7 and Rb8. or a6, Rb8 without Bd7. I see those much more often. Bf5 isn't common, but it is a viable move.

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Rodgy wrote:

honestly doesn't make sense tho, its equivalent to saying that the najdorf has no theory...

that's not the same thing, because what he thinks may not be true compared to other people. But the najdorf has lots of theory, and that's a fact. Someone may find closed positions stale, while others like me enjoy them. I think they're exciting. I know most people don't share my taste.

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Yeah, dxe5 looks annoying. In 'pure' KID lines taking on e5 favors Black, but here White's LSB opens up and White just gets a nice open file. At least that's what I see at a glance.

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B1ZMARK wrote:

r/anarchychess is stupid but occasionally funny imo. Most of it is just washed up memes translated to have a vague chess context.

Yeah I agree it is funny but sometimes the joke doesn't make enough sense.

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Most memes don't make any sense

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Well to be honest, I play a different King's Indian Line against fianchetto where in my opinion i can get some attack or at least get my pieces to good square where my position will definitely be passive. 

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alphaous wrote:

Yeah, dxe5 looks annoying. In 'pure' KID lines taking on e5 favors Black, but here White's LSB opens up and White just gets a nice open file. At least that's what I see at a glance.

The theory goes dxe5 dxe5 Bg5, when I don't remember anything else. If dxe5 Nxe5, I forgot what white does lol. I should probably learn my theory better.

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B1ZMARK wrote:
Rodgy wrote:

honestly doesn't make sense tho, its equivalent to saying that the najdorf has no theory...

that's not the same thing, because what he thinks may not be true compared to other people. But the najdorf has lots of theory, and that's a fact. Someone may find closed positions stale, while others like me enjoy them. I think they're exciting. I know most people don't share my taste.

I like closed positions. But you'll already know that from the rychess is fired thread.

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Rodgy wrote:

Well to be honest, I play a different King's Indian Line against fianchetto where in my opinion i can get some attack or at least get my pieces to good square where my position will definitely be passive. 

Well there's like fifty ways to play against it so

I don't think black gets an "attack" though.

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B1ZMARK wrote:

Most memes don't make any sense

Yeah, that's true.

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B1ZMARK wrote:
alphaous wrote:

Yeah, dxe5 looks annoying. In 'pure' KID lines taking on e5 favors Black, but here White's LSB opens up and White just gets a nice open file. At least that's what I see at a glance.

The theory goes dxe5 dxe5 Bg5, when I don't remember anything else. If dxe5 Nxe5, I forgot what white does lol. I should probably learn my theory better.

Nxe5 looks good after Nxe5.

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B1ZMARK wrote:
Rodgy wrote:

Well to be honest, I play a different King's Indian Line against fianchetto where in my opinion i can get some attack or at least get my pieces to good square where my position will definitely be passive. 

Well there's like fifty ways to play against it so

I don't think black gets an "attack" though.

Wait are you Russian?

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B1ZMARK wrote:
Rodgy wrote:

Well to be honest, I play a different King's Indian Line against fianchetto where in my opinion i can get some attack or at least get my pieces to good square where my position will definitely be passive. 

Well there's like fifty ways to play against it so

I don't think black gets an "attack" though.

Well yeah against fianchetto sure but it would make more sense to say that the KID is passive against Fianchetto rather than just saying the KID altogether, because in the Mar Del Plata you are definitely getting an attack and that's the main line. Example: 

This was some game in a USCF online tourney from CCA I think it was New York championship or something.

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probably my best game lol, 3 brilliant moves and 99 accuracy lol promise i wasn't cheatin 

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Nice game!

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Rodgy wrote:

i refuse to believe that the person who said the KID is passive is 2300 rapid...

Dude ikr he prolly doesn’t know KID well

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alphaous wrote:
B1ZMARK wrote:
alphaous wrote:

Yeah, dxe5 looks annoying. In 'pure' KID lines taking on e5 favors Black, but here White's LSB opens up and White just gets a nice open file. At least that's what I see at a glance.

The theory goes dxe5 dxe5 Bg5, when I don't remember anything else. If dxe5 Nxe5, I forgot what white does lol. I should probably learn my theory better.

Nxe5 looks good after Nxe5.

No no he didn't say Nxe5 was the move, he gave a different one.

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Rodgy wrote:

Well yeah against fianchetto sure but it would make more sense to say that the KID is passive against Fianchetto rather than just saying the KID altogether, because in the Mar Del Plata you are definitely getting an attack and that's the main line.

I mean, in the same vein, just because it's wild in the mar del plata doesn't make it a crazy attacking opening.

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B1ZMARK wrote:
Rodgy wrote:

Well yeah against fianchetto sure but it would make more sense to say that the KID is passive against Fianchetto rather than just saying the KID altogether, because in the Mar Del Plata you are definitely getting an attack and that's the main line.

I mean, in the same vein, just because it's wild in the mar del plata doesn't make it a crazy attacking opening.

Doesn't make it passive either...