I don't see how all that is relevant to the subject in any way.
My point is that in a normal system master titles require norms, while titles below mater level (CM and less) only require rating. And the USCF is doing is backwards in the case of CM and NM.
I don't see how all that is relevant to the subject in any way.
My point is that in a normal system master titles require norms, while titles below mater level (CM and less) only require rating. And the USCF is doing is backwards in the case of CM and NM.
In India we don't have NM title
It's all turned into a big racket. When you have to pay for the title that should tell you something. Nobody's going to be impressed by a CM or NM title, and don't get me started on women's titles. IM or GM titles are for elite chess players, especially GM and that's one really worth shooting for. Otherwise forget it.
There are still tough requirements to be met. It's still impressive to me (outside tournament title awards). Why put it down?
He's not entirely off the mark. No one really cares about the Candidate Master title unless it was earned through FIDE's rating system. Similarly, the National Master title is just a way to acknowledge a player's skill level, usually around 2100 FIDE rating. It's not much to brag about since it just puts them in the same league as an average tournament player who plays a lot.
As someone who lives in the US, we all understand it's not as important as the FIDE title.
So why is it more difficult (or at least more complicated) to earn it? Why is requirement for the NM title simple, while for the lesser CM title more complex? In what world does it make any sense? Other than the USCF being contrarian on purpose, and doing the exact opposite of what everybody else is doing.
this i never quite understood as it has a valid point. the NM title lacks any moral obligations besides the established rating of 2200 yet the American CM title requires norms and rating to ensure its well-earned qualification. there has never been an official comment to this question or none that i have found anyways to explain this claim but i theorize it was mostly done as a "preview" or small challenge to showcase a 2000's struggle and journey towards the NM title. it might have been added simply to state just like the categories that a player is making progress and is well on their way to the final destination of said 2200 rating or more but that is all.
in hindsight i should add that this does make NM easier to attain as it only needs the rating but nonetheless i like the way they do it in the US as it gives more chances for players to earn a title. beyond NM are other American titles such as Life Master, Original Life Master, and the super rare title of LSM known as Life Senior Master. this last title granted by the federation is the "American version" of the FIDE Grandmaster title if we were to compare as it means you are simply a strong 2400-2500 USCF rated player that has maintained their level throughout a number of games (akin 300 or more as a LSM). for example we can take a look at hikarus page
these are all the titles and only titles they will ever give after you become a NM
Congratulations! You deserve a Chess cake.
I don't see how all that is relevant to the subject in any way.
My point is that in a normal system master titles require norms, while titles below mater level (CM and less) only require rating. And the USCF is doing is backwards in the case of CM and NM.
The other titles were added as a recognition for other players, as milestones to try and achieve. For the most part I don't think most players care about them.
well done. onwards and upwards!
Congratulations! You deserve a Chess cake.
i didn't see this message, thank you but i dont eat sweets anymore especially not cake unless its for some special event like a party
... It's not much to brag about since it just puts them in the same league as an average tournament player who plays a lot.
Well, not really ...
The average tournament player is around 1750 FIDE, last I checked.
USCF CM is definitely worth celebrating. Nice job! Just another step in your march upward.
Congratulations!
US Chess CM isn't a title recognized by the site.
US Chess CM isn't a title recognized by the site.
only NM is for USCF and this is something worth noting for any player wanting red magic
... It's not much to brag about since it just puts them in the same league as an average tournament player who plays a lot.
Well, not really ...
The average tournament player is around 1750 FIDE, last I checked.
USCF CM is definitely worth celebrating. Nice job! Just another step in your march upward.
I am referring to National Master as someone like who is pretty much the average 2100 in the FIDE scene and is just seen as a regular individual. USCF CM is worse by all means as while it shows progress and that you are possibly making a breakthrough, it has significantly less value or impact than the NM title would but I still appreciate it cause for me it means i am still going forward in the right direction and that gives me a lot of motivation for this month. my goal is to simply stack up a ton of points to become a 2150-2160 maybe even 2170 up until ultimately me and my team have to travel to Maryland for the High School Nationals where i am hoping i become a National Master if not there then hopefully by the end of April as that's the dream
As someone who lives in the US, we all understand it's not as important as the FIDE title.
So why is it more difficult (or at least more complicated) to earn it? Why is requirement for the NM title simple, while for the lesser CM title more complex? In what world does it make any sense? Other than the USCF being contrarian on purpose, and doing the exact opposite of what everybody else is doing.