I quit chess.com - can't maintain 1500 rating due to sandbaggers.

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BigChessplayer665
xor_eax_eax05 wrote:

Using rating in the 1000 elo bracket rapid to measure strength is pointless. There's usually no difference in play between an 800 and a 1600. Completely broken. I've said this many times, as someone who has played Daily chess their entire life and im 1700-1800 strong at Daily chess, many 800 elos are as strong or even stronger. Many others are just barely learning to move the pieces. And both types are the same elo. You never know what you are going to get, rendering the meaning of "800 elo" pointless.

This 900 elo who can apparently hold the position equal for 30 moves:

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/115644527627?tab=review

is barely 100 points higher than this 850 elo:

https://www.chess.com/analysis/game/live/108395505328?tab=review

Like, I resign on the spot if you put a performance like the first game, even if im winning.

Just ran the first game through Lichess and my opponent played 28 centipawn loss at 900 elo level. In a 40 game move. I had to play at 17 centipawn loss for THIRTY moves before he blundered one single pawn which turned the position in my favour.

Imagine having to put a 20 centipawn loss performance in the 800 elo bracket just to have the chance to tip the game in your favour on just one pawn loss.

They don't have the same performance but it can feel like they do a 1600 can beat a 800 probably close to 90% of the time specifically talking about rapid and blitz chess

Yes occasionally they will have the same performance as 800s but it's not as common

Daily is meaningless some 2000s are like 800-1600 daily just because they don't grind daily plus some 1000s are 2000+ daily

davidk67
SliceofLife wrote:

Every single game I have lost this week has been to a player with a highest rating of 1700 or above, these players are stomping me with 90-95% accuracy, when I play fellow 1500s I win but then there are so many of these sandbaggers it is impossible to progress. Quitting the site because this is stupid, sort it out moderators.

This doesn't make any sense. You have lost to highly-rated players and you win against lower rated players. What's the problem, what's the surprise?

David
davidk67 wrote:

What's the problem, what's the surprise?

He's not as good as he thinks he is wink.png

SliceofLife
davidk67 wrote:
SliceofLife wrote:

Every single game I have lost this week has been to a player with a highest rating of 1700 or above, these players are stomping me with 90-95% accuracy, when I play fellow 1500s I win but then there are so many of these sandbaggers it is impossible to progress. Quitting the site because this is stupid, sort it out moderators.

This doesn't make any sense. You have lost to highly-rated players and you win against lower rated players. What's the problem, what's the surprise?

The highly rated players are playing at 1500 that is the surprise. They are not real 1500s.

BigChessplayer665
SliceofLife wrote:
davidk67 wrote:
SliceofLife wrote:

Every single game I have lost this week has been to a player with a highest rating of 1700 or above, these players are stomping me with 90-95% accuracy, when I play fellow 1500s I win but then there are so many of these sandbaggers it is impossible to progress. Quitting the site because this is stupid, sort it out moderators.

This doesn't make any sense. You have lost to highly-rated players and you win against lower rated players. What's the problem, what's the surprise?

The highly rated players are playing at 1500 that is the surprise. They are not real 1500s.

Cough tilt is a thing... People tilt 200 points all the time

Doves-cove

I don't. 😎

Lemonade
Vonbishoffen wrote:
jankogajdoskoLEM wrote:

Game is rigged my dear friend, anyways I wish you the best and good luck.

Reminds me of something about elo gatekeepers

https://www.chess.com/forum/view/community/game-is-rigged-cant-win

I got blocked by Janko after I beat him in a game of blitz

Doves-cove

Im not saying that you were, but if you were bullying him then he has good reason to block you.

QathetMike

Op is still playing here- won their last 3 games- 2 of them today

has gone 6 wins and a draw in last 7

now at new peak rapid of 1575.

Lilyana

Meh players have good days, you just get unlucky

Doves-cove

I retired, so atleast that way im not unlucky.

Lord_Refa
Doves-cove wrote:

Yes, I've long suspected this, it's in their commercial interest to not ban paying subscribers unless it's really really clear. Otherwise, let it slide and play down the problem. In fairness to chess.com cheat detection is hard, and they don't want to get sued by paying customers unfairly banned for cheating. Still, I think it's right to acknowledge the situation and chess.com's vested interests though.

Doves-cove
Lord_Refa wrote:
Doves-cove wrote:
 

Yes, I've long suspected this, it's in their commercial interest to not ban paying subscribers unless it's really really clear. Otherwise, let it slide and play down the problem. In fairness to chess.com cheat detection is hard, and they don't want to get sued by paying customers unfairly banned for cheating. Still, I think it's right to acknowledge the situation and chess.com's vested interests though.

Finally some thats not blind to the truth!

Gottfried94

I was 1640 blitz last week, today 1400 and still going down. I played about 30 games today, won probably like 3 and literally none of my opponents played below 2050, 2200 on average according to engine (me around the same, little bit less mostly). I don't know what happened compared to last week, but people seem to play perfect games, no mistakes, no blunders, rarely any inaccuracies. Slowly slowly I am just being outplayed game after game and I feel like even those 1400 players now are suddenly superior to me, while last week I was equal with 1600-1700 lol.
I'd like to blame myself, but I just can't. I don't feel tired, I am not tilting at all, I feel good, except. I can't play chess anymore seems like

BigChessplayer665
Gottfried94 wrote:

I was 1640 blitz last week, today 1400 and still going down. I played about 30 games today, won probably like 3 and literally none of my opponents played below 2050, 2200 on average according to engine (me around the same, little bit less mostly). I don't know what happened compared to last week, but people seem to play perfect games, no mistakes, no blunders, rarely any inaccuracies. Slowly slowly I am just being outplayed game after game and I feel like even those 1400 players now are suddenly superior to me, while last week I was equal with 1600-1700 lol.
I'd like to blame myself, but I just can't. I don't feel tired, I am not tilting at all, I feel good, except. I can't play chess anymore seems like

Don't worry I tilted 200 points 3 days ago also btw if your tilted you will make position to easy for opponents and there fake rating estimate will go brrr lol I got a rating once of 2850 cause a 2500 hung a piece on move ten (I did not play like a 2800 lol)

Tbh you probably got maybe 1-2 cheaters in the mix but idk at all lol

BigChessplayer665
yrewol wrote:

I agree all out to quit this site my self. Look up JustPlaying2Beatu. Chess.com won’t do a thing about it.

Ok... You been saying it for a few months now so why don't you just go ahead and quit 🤔 they are probably a cheater but they'd re inactive lol how about try catching active cheaters instead

Just like the op go play a different site there no reason to play chess if your just complaining about why you can't improve why play chess with this type of thought process it doesn't make sense to me

Gottfried94
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Gottfried94 wrote:

I was 1640 blitz last week, today 1400 and still going down. I played about 30 games today, won probably like 3 and literally none of my opponents played below 2050, 2200 on average according to engine (me around the same, little bit less mostly). I don't know what happened compared to last week, but people seem to play perfect games, no mistakes, no blunders, rarely any inaccuracies. Slowly slowly I am just being outplayed game after game and I feel like even those 1400 players now are suddenly superior to me, while last week I was equal with 1600-1700 lol.
I'd like to blame myself, but I just can't. I don't feel tired, I am not tilting at all, I feel good, except. I can't play chess anymore seems like

Don't worry I tilted 200 points 3 days ago also btw if your tilted you will make position to easy for opponents and there fake rating estimate will go brrr lol I got a rating once of 2850 cause a 2500 hung a piece on move ten (I did not play like a 2800 lol)

Tbh you probably got maybe 1-2 cheaters in the mix but idk at all lol

I have been playing all this week like 6-8 hours every single day either games or puzzles/puzzle rush, maybe that's why, maybe I am just mentally exhausted and need a break.

BigChessplayer665
Gottfried94 wrote:
BigChessplayer665 wrote:
Gottfried94 wrote:

I was 1640 blitz last week, today 1400 and still going down. I played about 30 games today, won probably like 3 and literally none of my opponents played below 2050, 2200 on average according to engine (me around the same, little bit less mostly). I don't know what happened compared to last week, but people seem to play perfect games, no mistakes, no blunders, rarely any inaccuracies. Slowly slowly I am just being outplayed game after game and I feel like even those 1400 players now are suddenly superior to me, while last week I was equal with 1600-1700 lol.
I'd like to blame myself, but I just can't. I don't feel tired, I am not tilting at all, I feel good, except. I can't play chess anymore seems like

Don't worry I tilted 200 points 3 days ago also btw if your tilted you will make position to easy for opponents and there fake rating estimate will go brrr lol I got a rating once of 2850 cause a 2500 hung a piece on move ten (I did not play like a 2800 lol)

Tbh you probably got maybe 1-2 cheaters in the mix but idk at all lol

I have been playing all this week like 6-8 hours every single day either games or puzzles/puzzle rush, maybe that's why, maybe I am just mentally exhausted and need a break.

Probably I'm also having the same issue cause I just hit a peak

Doves-cove

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Doves-cove

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