Erik,
I love the change!
Old Thread: IMPORTANT Change Coming to Vacation Use!
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Aug 11, 2010
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#23
When is this change going to take effect? It helps to know, since it does affect planning one's vacation time, obviously. Also, there were other legitimate questions raised by others before me, such as whether 1 day + 1 minute is equal to 2 days of vacation. Some flexibility in this matter is actually helpful, without hurting the overall idea - which makes sense.
Aug 11, 2010
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#24
ilikeflags wrote:
i think if a person really is not able to play their games then they really shouldn't be frolicking around the site. just an idea.
I see what you're saying. I guess the part I disagree with is I don't think vacation is just for people "really not able to play their games" but also for people who just don't want to play their games for a while. I probably had 15 or so games going when I took my vacation and I was probably losing in some and winning in some others, but I'd hope that anyone who had an advantage in one of the games didn't think I put all my other games on hold just because I thought there was a chance I might eventually lose the one against them.
Aug 11, 2010
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#25
I think the OP's idea is a necessary first step to managing vacation abuse, and it should bake for awhile - no need to ensnare good users with the bad with the proposed additional restriction.
Aug 11, 2010
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#27
Cystem_Phailure wrote:
ilikeflags wrote:
i think if a person really is not able to play their games then they really shouldn't be frolicking around the site. just an idea.
I see what you're saying. I guess the part I disagree with is I don't think vacation is just for people "really not able to play their games" but also for people who just don't want to play their games for a while. I probably had 15 or so games going when I took my vacation and I was probably losing in some and winning in some others, but I'd hope that anyone who had an advantage in one of the games didn't think I put all my other games on hold just because I thought there was a chance I might eventually lose the one against them.
and i am not anti-vacation. i totally understand its importance. i've used it--once. i was in hospital, but i only used it until i was able to get back to my games (1 day). i'm not trying to punish people for using vacation, i just think if you're on vacation your use of the site should be far more limited than just not having to move in your online games.
Aug 11, 2010
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#28
_valentin_ wrote:
When is this change going to take effect? It helps to know, since it does affect planning one's vacation time, obviously. Also, there were other legitimate questions raised by others before me, such as whether 1 day + 1 minute is equal to 2 days of vacation. Some flexibility in this matter is actually helpful, without hurting the overall idea - which makes sense.
1 day + 1 minute of vacation = 1 day + 1 minute of vacation.
24 hours is just the MINIMUM amount of time. that applies to just the first 24 hours.
Aug 11, 2010
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#29
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
Bad idea.
Speaking for myself, the level of seriousness required for a turn-based game is much different than what is required for the forums. And for live chess.
Take an example. My family is coming into town for two weeks. I might want to not think about chess.com games for those two weeks. So I make moves in all my games, then put it on vacation. Maybe at the end of one evening, I have time to login to read some of the forums, or play a live chess game or two. It doesn't mean that I have the time to play the turn-based games.
i missed this. i totally see your point ozzie_c and i agree with your logic about the time needed... i'll have to think about this. part of me still thinks the usage should be limited.
erik wrote:
_valentin_ wrote:
When is this change going to take effect? It helps to know, since it does affect planning one's vacation time, obviously. Also, there were other legitimate questions raised by others before me, such as whether 1 day + 1 minute is equal to 2 days of vacation. Some flexibility in this matter is actually helpful, without hurting the overall idea - which makes sense.
1 day + 1 minute of vacation = 1 day + 1 minute of vacation.
24 hours is just the MINIMUM amount of time. that applies to just the first 24 hours.
What happens during those 24 hours?
Aug 11, 2010
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#31
Windows-7_ wrote:
erik wrote:
_valentin_ wrote:
When is this change going to take effect? It helps to know, since it does affect planning one's vacation time, obviously. Also, there were other legitimate questions raised by others before me, such as whether 1 day + 1 minute is equal to 2 days of vacation. Some flexibility in this matter is actually helpful, without hurting the overall idea - which makes sense.
1 day + 1 minute of vacation = 1 day + 1 minute of vacation.
24 hours is just the MINIMUM amount of time. that applies to just the first 24 hours.
What happens during those 24 hours?
you aren't forced onto vacation for the full 24 hours. it's just that if you are on vacation for 5 minutes, it takes a full 24 hours off of your remaining vacation time.
Oh.
erik wrote:
Windows-7_ wrote:
erik wrote:
_valentin_ wrote:
When is this change going to take effect? It helps to know, since it does affect planning one's vacation time, obviously. Also, there were other legitimate questions raised by others before me, such as whether 1 day + 1 minute is equal to 2 days of vacation. Some flexibility in this matter is actually helpful, without hurting the overall idea - which makes sense.
1 day + 1 minute of vacation = 1 day + 1 minute of vacation.
24 hours is just the MINIMUM amount of time. that applies to just the first 24 hours.
What happens during those 24 hours?
you aren't forced onto vacation for the full 24 hours. it's just that if you are on vacation for 5 minutes, it takes a full 24 hours off of your remaining vacation time.
I can live with that. Thank you!
^ NASA's original plan for a Mars rover
(dammit, its on the previous page.)
ilikeflags wrote:
Windows-7_ wrote:
ilikeflags wrote:
i'm not really sure this does very much to change anything, but i totally appreciate that chess.com is addressing the issue.
that being said, erik, do you think it's worth considering not allowing a player to post in forums or be active in their teams and groups while on "vacation"? just an idea.
In addition to that, no Live Chess or any other site features.
i'm not sure i would take it that far plus since you've blocked me maybe don't try to build on my ideas you little twerp.
Isn't name calling a violation?
Dude, woodshover, where have YOU been?
Aug 11, 2010
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#38
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
Bad idea.
Speaking for myself, the level of seriousness required for a turn-based game is much different than what is required for the forums. And for live chess.
Take an example. My family is coming into town for two weeks. I might want to not think about chess.com games for those two weeks. So I make moves in all my games, then put it on vacation. Maybe at the end of one evening, I have time to login to read some of the forums, or play a live chess game or two. It doesn't mean that I have the time to play the turn-based games.
I agreed with erik's idea but with ozzie_c_ thought i agreed too.
kco wrote:
ozzie_c_cobblepot wrote:
Bad idea.
Speaking for myself, the level of seriousness required for a turn-based game is much different than what is required for the forums. And for live chess.
Take an example. My family is coming into town for two weeks. I might want to not think about chess.com games for those two weeks. So I make moves in all my games, then put it on vacation. Maybe at the end of one evening, I have time to login to read some of the forums, or play a live chess game or two. It doesn't mean that I have the time to play the turn-based games.
I agreed with erik's idea but with ozzie_c_ thought i agreed too.
Quit waffling Switzerland.
Oops- I guess that was name calling- Hey Windows, am I now on double secret probation yet?
I think this is a good idea to help reduce vacation abuse.
And I agree with those who think that being on vacation shouldn't prevent using other areas of chess.com. I know I sometimes go on vacation in my games when I go out of town for a weekend, but I can still find 5 minutes here and there to check in on the forums and messages, even though I don't want to spend the time necessary to think about ALL of my games where it's my move.
that being said, erik, do you think it's worth considering not allowing a player to post in forums or be active in their teams and groups while on "vacation"? just an idea.
What's the point of that? I've taken one vacation period since I joined because I wanted a couple weeks of break from the games. Why shouldn't people be able to continue with the other features? Erik's change makes sense to avoid abuse of vacation, but there's no reason to look for ways to punish people who take legitimate breaks, regardless of whether they still have computer access.
like i said just an idea. i think the more that is taken away from users who are mis-using vacation, the less they will mis-use. i have (more than once) in the past few weeks interacted with a member in the forums who is "on vacation" in my game and the game is really really one-sided to me. i'm not sure if it's a problem or a circumstance others have faced, but i think if a person really is not able to play their games then they really shouldn't be frolicking around the site. just an idea.