I think that in order to be successful chess.com should listen to the community. As I understand Kramnik’s requests to check some players by some reasons are considered as accusations or even slandering. For me such checks are perfectly fine as for fair players there are only benefits in such checks - more hype, fans, subscribers, videos and so on. Actually 3000+ players can easily play with Kramnik - to prove their real strengths.
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Dec 25, 2023
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#23
alexlehrersh wrote:
Lotus960 hat geschrieben:
alexlehrersh wrote:
3. War in Irak, war in Lybia do i have to go on for thw USA? For England the same. For France the same, for China the same? Only when Russia is doing war the racist peopel of chess.com, Fide and you the mob will react
Yet another Russian whining about so-called discrimination against Russians. Nobody whines like a Russian - the bully claims to be a victim, the aggressor claims he wants peace.
Clean up your act, stop killing people and start to behave like a normal law-abiding country instead of an outlaw-gangster state. Then maybe you'll be let back into the "club of the civilised". Until then, "идите лесом!"
1. Nope i am not a Russian or are you bllind
2. Nope the Russian state does notting worse than the so called western democracys. Ans i could say the same to Ukraine, stop killing people and return the be an democray
PS Your comment shows exactly what i was talking about Racism against Russia
Again Russian is a nationality not a race. Why can't you understand that? There simply seems to be no reasoning with you.
This site has a pattern of letting cheating happen with impunity. Money is way more important than chess to chesscom
nevergetsthewin wrote:
alexlehrersh wrote:
Lotus960 hat geschrieben:
alexlehrersh wrote:
3. War in Irak, war in Lybia do i have to go on for thw USA? For England the same. For France the same, for China the same? Only when Russia is doing war the racist peopel of chess.com, Fide and you the mob will react
Yet another Russian whining about so-called discrimination against Russians. Nobody whines like a Russian - the bully claims to be a victim, the aggressor claims he wants peace.
Clean up your act, stop killing people and start to behave like a normal law-abiding country instead of an outlaw-gangster state. Then maybe you'll be let back into the "club of the civilised". Until then, "идите лесом!"
1. Nope i am not a Russian or are you bllind
2. Nope the Russian state does notting worse than the so called western democracys. Ans i could say the same to Ukraine, stop killing people and return the be an democray
PS Your comment shows exactly what i was talking about Racism against Russia
Again Russian is a nationality not a race. Why can't you understand that? There simply seems to be no reasoning with you.
There was a time when germans considered the masses of the east untermenschen, but let us keep the discussion civil and not threw around accusations of racism or other such nonsense instead of factual arguments. Russian is a nationality, not a race. The critique of Kramnik´s way of handling his anti cheat crusade has nothing to do with his ethnicity or nationality.
Its normal to cheat with other cheating friends but you cant cheat on this site isnt it?! Kramnik was a loser a second class player till the beggining
Dec 25, 2023
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#27
alexlehrersh wrote:
Lotus960 hat geschrieben:
alexlehrersh wrote:
3. War in Irak, war in Lybia do i have to go on for thw USA? For England the same. For France the same, for China the same? Only when Russia is doing war the racist peopel of chess.com, Fide and you the mob will react
Yet another Russian whining about so-called discrimination against Russians. Nobody whines like a Russian - the bully claims to be a victim, the aggressor claims he wants peace.
Clean up your act, stop killing people and start to behave like a normal law-abiding country instead of an outlaw-gangster state. Then maybe you'll be let back into the "club of the civilised". Until then, "идите лесом!"
1. Nope i am not a Russian or are you bllind
2. Nope the Russian state does notting worse than the so called western democracys. Ans i could say the same to Ukraine, stop killing people and return the be an democray
PS Your comment shows exactly what i was talking about Racism against Russia
1. Your spelling is horrible.
2. Russian is a nationality, not a race.
alexlehrersh wrote:
hermanjohnell hat geschrieben:
nevergetsthewin wrote:
alexlehrersh wrote:
Lotus960 hat geschrieben:
alexlehrersh wrote:
3. War in Irak, war in Lybia do i have to go on for thw USA? For England the same. For France the same, for China the same? Only when Russia is doing war the racist peopel of chess.com, Fide and you the mob will react
Yet another Russian whining about so-called discrimination against Russians. Nobody whines like a Russian - the bully claims to be a victim, the aggressor claims he wants peace.
Clean up your act, stop killing people and start to behave like a normal law-abiding country instead of an outlaw-gangster state. Then maybe you'll be let back into the "club of the civilised". Until then, "идите лесом!"
1. Nope i am not a Russian or are you bllind
2. Nope the Russian state does notting worse than the so called western democracys. Ans i could say the same to Ukraine, stop killing people and return the be an democray
PS Your comment shows exactly what i was talking about Racism against Russia
Again Russian is a nationality not a race. Why can't you understand that? There simply seems to be no reasoning with you.
There was a time when germans considered the masses of the east untermenschen, but let us keep the discussion civil and not threw around accusations of racism or other such nonsense instead of factual arguments. Russian is a nationality, not a race. The critique of Kramnik´s way of handling his anti cheat crusade has nothing to do with his ethnicity or nationality.
The explain to me what is the difference between his accusiation and the accousations of Wesley So or Magnus??? Aside from thar chess.com suported them
Which accusation? Who has Kramnik accused and of what? As I understand him all he has done is to point out some statistically abnormal performances that he´s found interesting.
There are other avenues. But it would have been good if his account was just suspended instead of ban
llama_l wrote:
So Kramnik has demonstrated:
...it's all very pathetic.
Chess.com has cheating problems, but Kramnik has been a clown lately.
Let’s try to see the larger picture. We have a cheating problem in our beloved game. Kramnik tries to do smth about it. His way is not ideal - ok. Let’s find the better ways. Instead of this we called the only man who tries to do smth crazy clown and mute him.
Once again - Kramnik said - feel free to check my games any way you like. I expect that all fair players on chess.com will say the same. It would be nice to include this in terms of services. As such checks are the way to remove cheaters.
But instead even the idea of checking somebody is considered as an accusation, harassment and slandering. Why?
llama_l wrote:The reasoning behind closing Kramnik's blog is that as a business, chess.com can't allow accusations towards 12 year olds (for example). That makes sense to me.
Why the request to check somebody’s games is an accusation?
In sport there are a lot of anti-doping checks and it is fine for all sportsmen. Why in chess we are becoming accused by anti-cheating checks?
LuckyIllithid wrote:
llama_l wrote:The reasoning behind closing Kramnik's blog is that as a business, chess.com can't allow accusations towards 12 year olds (for example). That makes sense to me.
Why the request to check somebody’s games is an accusation?
In sport there are a lot of anti-doping checks and it is fine for all sportsmen. Why in chess we are becoming accused by anti-cheating checks?
Chess.com does do checks, of previous games, and does make various random titled players, play on a double camera set up.
Check one of Gotham's most recent vids:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Luin-6V6rM
Kramnik is one of the unique chess world champions.In 150 years only 17 people were world champions.Block one of them for ale best chess site is shameful act. I didnt saw Kramnik insulting anyone,world chess champions earn a right to say his opinion what is happening in chess world.Im getting feeling chess.com is trying to protect their goose that lays golden egss for this platform,but block world chess champion is just wow.They are hiding something otherwise this action makes no sense
LTU_attack wrote:
Kramnik is one of the unique chess world champions.In 150 years only 17 people were world champions.Block one of them for ale best chess site is shameful act. I didnt saw Kramnik insulting anyone,world chess champions earn a right to say his opinion what is happening in chess world.Im getting feeling chess.com is trying to protect their goose that lays golden egss for this platform,but block world chess champion is just wow.They are hiding something otherwise this action makes no sense
He just accused a 12 year old child of cheating-without providing any proof.
If I ran this site- or even FIDE I'd banish Kramnik totally.
Until he provides proof-if he can.
his actions are disgusting.
Dec 25, 2023
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llama_l wrote:
Even though Kramnik is a clown, it will be more costly to ignore him, so in that sense what he's doing is good.
Kramnik is not a clown. He's a chess player.
QathetMike wrote:
He just accused a 12 year old child of cheating-without providing any proof.
As I know Kramnik did not accuse anybody to be a cheater. He asked to check the games of certain persons. For me it is a valid request and I do not see anything bad in it. Why do you think that this is an accusation?
Kramnik is showing examples ( i dont care player is 12 or 87 old ) of performances that is very unlikely to happen,basically doing what chess.com cheating experts should do in the first place by themselfs. Unless Kramnik openly insulted somebody or cheated himself its tottaly inexcusable to block world chess champion from any chess site. This Chess.com action smells very fishy
LuckyIllithid wrote:
QathetMike wrote:
He just accused a 12 year old child of cheating-without providing any proof.
As I know Kramnik did not accuse anybody to be a cheater. He asked to check the games of certain persons. For me it is a valid request and I do not see anything bad in it. Why do you think that this is an accusation?
Why ask for an account to be checked, it you are not saying the account cheated?
What possible other reason is there to check an account?
Just for funsies?
Please.
LTU_attack wrote:
Kramnik is showing examples ( i dont care player is 12 or 87 old ) of performances that is very unlikely to happen,basically doing what chess.com cheating experts should do in the first place by themselfs. Unless Kramnik openly insulted somebody or cheated himself its tottaly inexcusable to block world chess champion from any chess site. This Chess.com actions smells very fishy
If you read Kramnik's posts they are full of insults and putdowns.
He tries to make fun of people's education, and alludes to some sort of conspiracy.
Kramnik is turning into the modern version of Bobby Fischer's later years as an anit-semitic koook.
Truly sad to see.
Bobby Fischer was insulting people,countries,Usa flag everyhing in last years.Kramnik is saying this players performance makes no sense from math number sense. I see nothing in common here.That Kramnik started asking unpopular questions about chess blitz god doesnt mean he is crazy. I will add normally chess player starting to lose some blitz skills turning 30+age because of simple body biology.But that 36 old is destroying all those 14-25 age strong with chess titles youngsters in reaction,mouse speed 1minute games looks interesting for me too
Chess.com can silence anyone on their site. It is not a public forum. All this is good for clicks. Kramnik isn't totally in the wrong though. When anyone can start a new profile or change an email address to avoid repricussions. You have to understand... this website isn't about fair gaming it is about money. They are not a governing body and unfortunately the governing body is FIDE. We hope for fair play here but paranoia takes hold. It's what they get for wanting to be the fox news/wwf of the chess world. Savvy?