M'Donnell's Double Gambit

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In perusing the 1876 volume of the American Chess Journal (owned and edited by W. S. Hallock), I came across this interesting game, an example of M'Donnell's Double Gambit. 
Here it is with slightly abridged notes:


Here is the M'Donnell-Labourdonnais game:




Here is the Mongredien-Morphy game:


Of particular interest to me is the variation suggested at move 5 in the first game's note: 5...Be7.

This leads to a variation in M'Donnell's Double Gambit called the "Four Pawns Gambit."

It goes like this:


Unfortunately, even though this is a named variation, I've been unable to locate a single example in any database. 

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I wonder if anyone has ever done a computer analysis for the approximate rating of the McDonnell Labourdabais match.

Eyeballing their game, I’d hazard a guess at 1500 strength otb.
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I don't think it's even remotely fair, or accurate, or insightful to try to assign an elo to past masters for a dozen reasons I haven't time to get into.  I will say, with both M'Donnell and Labourdonnais I see a fighting spirit and resourcefulness often not exhibited by contemporary masters. 

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I think it is interesting to do, to see how far along chess theory has come. People try to assign elo to Morphy.

It isn’t denigrating them at all, in fact I am continually amazed at how good players back then could get with what must have been utterly abysmal training materials. I imagine most of their strength just came from playing lots of games.

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I guess nobody's ever seen and Four Pawn Gambits variations in the M'Donnell's Double Gambit?

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It sure is a lonely opening...

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I don’t play 1…e5 myself, but I don’t think many would answer 2. Bc4 with 2…Bc5.

I think I’d go ahead and attack the pawn with Nf6.

So yeah, a little lonely opening….
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NN's true potential shines when NN plays NN.

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it’s kind of like France, the only war they ever won was the civil war, because the opponent was France.