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Nov 13, 2013
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#3
@OP: Declining rematches and the refusal to offer rematches are not breaches of the Fair Play Policy. No game is in progress, so the policy cannot be violated.
To save you the trouble of having to read through all of those threads, I'll summarize the conclusion that a majority of the chess.com community has come to in earlier discussions on the subject. Your opponent is not obligated to accept a rematch from you. There are many reasons why they wouldn't accept a rematch, for example, they have something else to do after playing 1 game, or they're tired after playing 1 game and they need a break, or they simply don't want to play with you again, all of which are perfectly fine. Also, most members of the chess.com community think what's infinitely more annoying than nt accepting rematches, is starting a thread on the forums whining about it.
AxeKnight wrote:
Fohad, I know the feeling - you lose a close, hard fought match and want another go against an aggressive opponent. The guy, of course, declines, leaving you a bit worked up. How about a standard policy of neither giving nor asking for a rematch.
Also, don't get too blown away by aggressive players. As they say in the movies "hold the file".
Removing the rematch function just to prevent people who feel entitled to a rematch from having their feelings hurt? I don't think so. The rematch function is widely used on chess.com, especially at lower time controls and higher levels. Without it the only way to play somebody again would be to search for them, which is needlessly complicated.
AxeKnight wrote:
Noooo,that was a policy suggestion for the player, not the site.
Sorry man, my bad. In that case, it seems like a pretty good suggestion.
People need to realize that others have lives outside of their computer and you can't possibly know whether they decline because they are 'aggressive' or decline because they have to go do something (or just don't want to play). For example, I declined a rematch yesterday because I had to go put my son to bed. There's nothing arrogant or negative about that. So many people on this site (and on the internet in general) make assumptions about their opponent's demeanor based on absolutely nothing. Other times I've declined rematches because it's 1 AM and I need to sleep. Or, you know, sometimes I like to pay attention to my family. Some people have lives outside of the internet!
wardguitar wrote:
People need to realize that others have lives outside of their computer and you can't possibly know whether they decline because they are 'aggressive' or decline because they have to go do something (or just don't want to play). For example, I declined a rematch yesterday because I had to go put my son to bed. There's nothing arrogant or negative about that. So many people on this site (and on the internet in general) make assumptions about their opponent's demeanor based on absolutely nothing. Other times I've declined rematches because it's 1 AM and I need to sleep. Or, you know, sometimes I like to pay attention to my family. Some people have lives outside of the internet!
Absolutely. And even if someone declines a rematch just because they feel like it, there's nothing wrong with that either.
Many times a player will automatically push the new game button before you hit the rematch button. So it appears that they are ignoring your request, when in fact they are already involved in another game.
macer75 a écrit :
To save you the trouble of having to read through all of those threads, I'll summarize the conclusion that a majority of the chess.com community has come to in earlier discussions on the subject. Your opponent is not obligated to accept a rematch from you. There are many reasons why they wouldn't accept a rematch, for example, they have something else to do after playing 1 game, or they're tired after playing 1 game and they need a break, or they simply don't want to play with you again, all of which are perfectly fine. Also, most members of the chess.com community think what's infinitely more annoying than nt accepting rematches, is starting a thread on the forums whining about it.
hi macer 75
it's not a question of whining . I'm not talking here only about me, It's a fact that a lot of players are suffering when they play a good game but they lose, I think they have the right of a rematch. personally, after having played many hundred games, I can say that I have never declined a rematch I always accept them no matter I win or lose , no matter I'm tired or happy or sad... It's a question of ETHICS because chess is not only a game but also a way to show our education, our moral values, our behaviour . this is the most important lesson in chess : sport + ethics.
fouhad42 wrote:
macer75 a écrit :
To save you the trouble of having to read through all of those threads, I'll summarize the conclusion that a majority of the chess.com community has come to in earlier discussions on the subject. Your opponent is not obligated to accept a rematch from you. There are many reasons why they wouldn't accept a rematch, for example, they have something else to do after playing 1 game, or they're tired after playing 1 game and they need a break, or they simply don't want to play with you again, all of which are perfectly fine. Also, most members of the chess.com community think what's infinitely more annoying than nt accepting rematches, is starting a thread on the forums whining about it.
hi macer 75
it's not a question of whining . I'm not talking here only about me, It's a fact that a lot of players are suffering when they play a good game but they lose, I think they have the right of a rematch. personally, after having played many hundred games, I can say that I have never declined a rematch I always accept them no matter I win or lose , no matter I'm tired or happy or sad... It's a question of ETHICS because chess is not only a game but also a way to show our education, our moral values, our behaviour . this is the most important lesson in chess : sport + ethics.
Well good for you then. Btw, is it a coincidence that you started this thread when you're on a 7 game losing streak? Funny how I've never seen a player who has won most of his recent games start one of these rematch threads.
Nov 13, 2013
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#12
@OP: The issue is not one of ethics. Ironically, the attempt to pressure (or possibly even bully) others to accept rematches is arguably unethical.
Btw, seriously, if you don't agree with me you should check out that link I posted. I was simply summarizing the general consensus of the chess.com community regarding the issue of rematches, of of course you could argue that it's just my interpretation of what others are saying. So feel free to check out for yourself some of the threads contained in that link, and you'll have a better idea of what kind of replies you'll get on this thread.
Nov 13, 2013
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#14
fouhad42 wrote:
hi
I want to expose ... they don't understand what is the meaning of fairplay.
Definition of "fair play" - Conformity to established rules.
Can you point to which established rule in the game of chess says that someon must offer you/accept a rematch? Just wondering because I have read the entire USCF rule book as well as the entire FIDE rule book and I do not remember that rule being in either set of established set of rules.
(I cannot find the definition of "fairplay", perhaps that is not really a word?)
Perhaps it is you who does not undestand the meaning of "fair play".
To Macer 75, I will say that this discussion has no relation with my recent seven lost games. it's only a coincidence. you are free to believe it or not. the only think I'm sure about is that many people use this game in the wrong way. anyway the ultimate solution is to cancel definitely the option of a rematch.
Nov 13, 2013
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#16
If you enjoied the match so much you want another one, befriend that player and invite them to play again another time. Maybe chat with them a little, or give them a trophy or something. A faceless yes/no button does not tell you a thing about your opponent --- as the many above examples of why someone might press "no" explained. You are reading too much into a mouseclick.
What. I often play a game sometimes when I'm bored and then quit. Never considered it as rude
Rsava a écrit :
fouhad42 wrote:
hi
I want to expose ... they don't understand what is the meaning of fairplay.
Definition of "fair play" - Conformity to established rules.
Can you point to which established rule in the game of chess says that someon must offer you/accept a rematch? Just wondering because I have read the entire USCF rule book as well as the entire FIDE rule book and I do not remember that rule being in either set of established set of rules.
(I cannot find the definition of "fairplay", perhaps that is not really a word?)
Perhaps it is you who does not undestand the meaning of "fair play".
"fairplay" is not only a question of rules. maybe accepting or declining a rematch is not established as a rule of fairplay but it has a real connection with it because it's a question of respect to your opponent: when you play against a player , you have to show respect not only during the game but also after ( for example accepting a rematch; I'm not talking here about five or ten rematches but only one rematch) . it's a question of respect towards the opponent that's all
wardguitar a écrit :
People need to realize that others have lives outside of their computer and you can't possibly know whether they decline because they are 'aggressive' or decline because they have to go do something (or just don't want to play). For example, I declined a rematch yesterday because I had to go put my son to bed. There's nothing arrogant or negative about that. So many people on this site (and on the internet in general) make assumptions about their opponent's demeanor based on absolutely nothing. Other times I've declined rematches because it's 1 AM and I need to sleep. Or, you know, sometimes I like to pay attention to my family. Some people have lives outside of the internet!
in some cases it can be true as you explain. but I'm sure in some others cases, those players are simply afraid of playing a rematch because they know that their win is only a question of luck and coincidence not a question of strengh, otherwise they would accept the rematch.
Nov 13, 2013
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#20
Ok, tell me, fouhad42 - I live in America, eastern time zone (GMT -5). I am currently at work. I get 1 hour for lunch.
I eat my lunch and have 1/2 hour left on my lunch break. So I jump on chess.com for a quick game, a 10min one. If all time is used it is 20 minutes. I finish the game and now have 10 minutes left on my lunch break, not enough time for a rematch. I then come over to the forums for a quick read and find some guy from another time zone berating players who won't rematch.
Talk about a lack of respect. You sir, have no respect for other players.
hi
I want to expose a problem that happens very often at the end of the game : unfortunately more than 70 % of players not only decline a rematch when they win the game but sometimes simply they ignore your offer of a rematch and disconnect. Those players are a real shame for this noble game, and I'm sure they are selfish persons, arrogants, insolents and whatever you want. They don't deserve to be called chessplayers, they don't understand what is the meaning of fairplay. by the other side there are lovely people whom playing a game is a real pleasure: they don't cheat and they accept a rematch no matter they win or lose. but this kind of players is a minority comparing to the "bad guys".