Puzzles rating - proposing an additional measure

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tcjohans

Hello,

I recently started using this site and one of the things I like doing is resolving Puzzles. I like to resolve puzzles in order to improve my tactical skills and see approximately how strong I am in comparison with the community at large.

However, I notice the current Puzzles score seems to be rather accumulative in nature - it seems one can keep on resolving puzzles and increase the score so much that in the end it becomes more a reflection of how much time and effort one has put into puzzles than a measure of one's ability in comparison with the chess community at large. (On the leaderboard, there are several hundred users with scores above 4,000 and even several above 10,000.) Thus, among two player, A and B, A may perhaps be a stronger player than B in tactics, but B will still be able to attain a much higher Puzzles score by simply keeping on resolving puzzles. (One of the underlying reasons for this seems to be that a solved puzzle always adds a minimum of 5 points to a user's score.)

Based on this, I would like to propose the introduction of an additional puzzles-related score, let's call it, say, Puzzles Ability Score (PAS), which would function more properly as a rating/measure of a user's ability to solve puzzles. (This can be achieved by letting each resolved puzzle add to a person's PAS score an amount that depends more strictly on the difference between the user's PAS score and the puzzle's corresponding PAS score and thus may end up being minimal or even 0 if the difference is very big.)

Thomas

Martin_Stahl

Puzzles also have ratings and members get ratings based on performance, just like in games. That's how you can measure progress.

If you're on the Puzzle Points system you can either enable it to also show rating, or disable the feature to only show rating and not participate in the path points.

tcjohans

How can I enable it to show rating? I cannot find any such setting when I go to Settings > Puzzles. Perhaps it's a membership feature that's only open to paying members?

tcjohans

Sorry, I suspect you are mistaken. As far as I can see, there is only one so-called rating system available for Puzzles currently, and it has the flaws that I mentioned, i.e. it is accumulative and grows to figures like 10,000 and beyond. Thus, my point stands: There is a need for a better rating system to be implemented.

xtreme2020
No, there’s a rating system. You’re wrong
xtreme2020
Go to settings -> puzzles -> then toggle “collect puzzle points” off and it’ll show your rating which works similarly to the actual game rating system, each puzzle is assigned a rating and you’re given more rating for beating a harder puzzle and doing it faster
tcjohans

Thank you, but when I go to Settings > Puzzles, there is no setting called "Collect puzzle points". The only settings I can see on that page are:

Show Details

Show Timer

Reset Rated Training History

Reset Puzzle Rush History

Reset Endgames History

Reset Practice Positions

Takadrenaline

The population of puzzles only appears to go up to around a rating of 3600. Therefore, if your tactical ability is well above that level of puzzle difficulty, and you therefore never or almost never get a puzzle wrong, then the score is indeed cumulative, and it won't work for you as a rating.

For most mortals (including me), we are below that level of tactical vision, and for us, the rating does work. As in, we'll find a rating at which we top out. I've topped out at around 3300 rating on puzzles, and no matter how many puzzles I do, I won't ever get to 10,000 whatever, unless my tactical ability improves a lot.

I suspect I'll be around this level indefinitely, but if my calculation does improve substantially, I'm only 300 away from the 3600 ceiling, so even a patzer like me rated 185 blitz could plausibly break into a silly puzzle rating.