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cyberbabble1

         Okay, imagine you sit home, on a day off, in front of a computer. You have got laundry to do, but              you tell yourself "first a chess game!". Then imagine that, after the game, you stare at the re-      match          invite while your memory bells the ring you have to do the laundry...  Icare001

 

Icare001, if you read my post I said that I understand that there are external factors, but its funny how they don't seem to affect people after they win the first game as white. I that instance they are more than three times as likely to rematch. If external factors explained everything they would impact all rematch situations evenly - win as white, win as black, lose as white, lose as black. But they don't, so we can dismiss your idea as not explaining the data.

 

knighttour2, I have a little spreadsheet on my other screen and in it I have four columns representing the four rematch scenarios. I put a mark in Y in the appropriate column if they accept a rematch and N if they don't. I have been doing this for a while now and the results are clear as day. You might think this is an obsession, but to me it is a curiosity and I am just in search of an explanation. So far none has been provided that is so compelling as to dissuade me of my view.

 

I guess my main point is the idea of etiquette. Nowadays we hear the term Netiquette, this being a portmanteau of the words Net and Etiquette. However, while there are certainly exceptions to this, it seems to me to be more accurate to interpret Netiquette to be a portmanteau of Not and Etiquette.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Toucantime

Still having black on next game, I'm less likely to postpone my laundry, since it's less tempting to have an other game with black than with white. And for what I know, there is nothing such as a re-match etiquette. I do understand re-match is made possible by the fact it's not a game within a tournament nor within a team play match OTB. But actually, that existed nearly not before online play. The closest thing to it, was to defy someone in the club to a 2 or 4 games rated match, when rules made it possible and club president agreed upon homologation of the games to the related federations. (FFE and FIDE for France)

 

What strikes me here, is that more and more people seem to take the online play for the default, normal way of playing chess, when it's actually only the shadow of the actual chess game, when two persons sit face to face, look at each other in the eyes, shake hands, and "spread blood". That still exists big time, and in spite of the fact, Internet play is all you know, it's a joke in comparision, sorry to say so, but it's true: you won't get 10% of the actual emotions you feel in a real game, out of an online game.

Toucantime
kaynight wrote:

Wait for an English translation of this.

C'mon smartass, re-writte it and show us what real English is. If you only can... tongue.png

Toucantime
kaynight wrote:

Gawwd..where to start?

Go brain shopping? grin.png

sfcavfegreg

Etiquette means manners

Netiquette means the correct or acceptable way of communicating on the Internet.

Portmanteau means 

a word blending the sounds and combining the meanings of two others, for example motel (from ‘motor’ and ‘hotel’) or brunch (from ‘breakfast’ and ‘lunch’).
"podcast is a portmanteau, a made-up word coined from a combination of the words iPod and broadcast"

Mostly the origin of them is French

cyberbabble1

Icare001, if someone is less likely to rematch as black for whatever reason it still amounts to the same thing. You are really agreeing that when faced with an option to rematch as black rather than white people avoid black rematches at a higher rate. it may be an external element is the excuse not to rematch, but what you are saying is that this external factor is more likely to be ignored if you are about to play as white.

 

I agree that online chess is but a shadow of the OTB game, but sadly where I live there is so little chess played that way that I am forced to play live online. You are right though, the lack of any sense of being in the presence of another human being is sadly lacking. Some people are good, and I get friend requests and also make them that way, but the vast majority are in it for the win and then move on.

 

Since I wrote my last post 45 minutes ago I had several more cases of this.

 

Oh well, I guess that's just the way it is. That's enough about this now.

 

Thanks everyone.

svensvensven

Does anyone else notice that match-ups tend to always randomly place me as black. What's up with that?

Martin_Stahl
svensvensven wrote:

Does anyone else notice that match-ups tend to always randomly place me as black. What's up with that?

 

You only have 28 games in blitz. 16 blacks to 12 whites is not that much of a difference. And it certainly isn't always.

 

Daily is is only 14 games with 8 blacks and 6 whites, still not always. In Daily, people can choose their color in rated games, so that can potentially end up more lopsided.

svensvensven
Martin_Stahl wrote:
svensvensven wrote:

Does anyone else notice that match-ups tend to always randomly place me as black. What's up with that?

 

You only have 28 games in blitz. 16 blacks to 12 whites is not that much of a difference. And it certainly isn't always.

 

Daily is is only 14 games with 8 blacks and 6 whites, still not always. In Daily, people can choose their color in rated games, so that can potentially end up more lopsided.

Ah, good point. Just a feeling, I suppose. Should have fact checked myself.

NATHANKRISHNA

I usually do not ask for a re-match.Also declines if the game was of ordinary nature irrespective of who won previous game.But sometimes up to 5 games in a row have I played when opponent  

was very sportive,played tooth for tooth attitude and the game was very competitive and each of  

the game was anybody's game ..

nimzomalaysian
cyberbabble1 wrote:

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svensvensven

Pretty much, most people give a rematch offer to players they enjoyed playing with. Sounds pretty straight forward.

MickinMD

If it's a challenge to you, you get White, you win yet you find your opponent is a worthy opponent, you should NOT accept the challenge unless you intend to offer a rematch.  If you don't have the time for an immediate rematch, you should drop your opponent a note that you're looking forward to challenging him at a later date.

On the other hand, if the opponent's play indicates his rating is inflated or lucky-to-be-high and he doesn't appear to be able to play a challenging game against you, declining the rematch would be appropriate.  Note that there is no rule that you have to offer a rematch.

tooba1027
Icare001 wrote:

Hi there,

 

There a many good enough reasons why one would not want a rematch. Let me give you a few of them:

 

_ One is at work, and has to quit playing chess online for a while as some work related task awaits...

_ One is in the process of simulating a tournament, playing a certain number of various opponents in a row. A rematch would not fit the simulation.

_ One can expect some casual cheaters to "start the engine" for the rematch, in revenge, or because they suspect you you've win using an engine.

_ One gets a phone call right at the moment you're asking for a rematch.

_ One planned on playing "just that game" and go food shopping afterward.

_ One is tired after that (or these) game(s) and wants to take a break.

 

Etc.

 

So, take it easy!

 

+1

 

I am often on the losing end of a rematch being requested of me, and I'm sometimes too butt hurt to lose again so I choose not to play 😂

itawditawaputtytat

having a rematch declined! that's really unsporting, then if they win a second time and refuse another rematch it's even more unsporting, it gets almost intolerable when they win 10 in a row.