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ozzie_c_cobblepot

For what it's worth, I totally agree with chess_kebabs

CPawn
Dexter_Morgan wrote:
CPawn wrote:

Very mature, and it also shows what it takes to be a real man.  God Bless whoever that is, and i wish them the best. 


Sorry I wouldn't use the words "mature" and a "real man" to describe a lowlife who takes it upon himself to cheat on an internet chess site.


You are correct.  But i posted that he was mature, and a real man for aologizing.

phrage

the glib and voluminous verbiage about this guy of every persuasion has a lot of schadenfreude  about it.

it is over. chess is a game. cheaters will get tired of the emptiness with or without getting caught  and wander off to some other  sterile exercise.

if the site is able to detect cheating efficiently -and it appears it is - then  a revenue argument can be made for letting reformed cheaters back.maybe the extra staff time needed to monitor potential re-offenders  would be uneconomic. what is the purpose of the site ? promote the game or make dosh ? 

Dexter_Morgan
CPawn wrote:
Dexter_Morgan wrote:
CPawn wrote:

Very mature, and it also shows what it takes to be a real man.  God Bless whoever that is, and i wish them the best. 


Sorry I wouldn't use the words "mature" and a "real man" to describe a lowlife who takes it upon himself to cheat on an internet chess site.


You are correct.  But i posted that he was mature, and a real man for aologizing.


I respect your opinion.  And chess_kebab's too.  I just have a huge distaste for chess cheaters, and seemingly nothing they can do from that point onward can change my opinion of them. 

Dexter_Morgan
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atomichicken
chess_kebabs wrote: 

Anton told me he came home one night drunk...his games were stalled and he made the mistake to use an engine... a mistake he truly regrets.


You don't really believe that do you? The staff have said themselves they need to build up a significant pool of games to be used as evidence of cheating in order to ban someone. They're not going to ban someone if that person used an engine for only one nights playing.

atomichicken

And by the way, I take it by Eric and the staff creating cheating topics and joining in the discussion themselves that their supposed "policy" of not allowing any cheating dicussion on the main public forums isn't supposed to be taken seriously anymore.

Ricardo_Rego

I joined this site approximately three weeks ago, after getting my first pc. It's been 17 years since I played chess. I don't have a UCSF rating or any rating for that matter. I am not a pro or pretend to be, I just love this game. If your system of tracking and banning players works then use it, anyone that has have a brain would not walk and talk about numbers if there cheating to get them. I just checked my stats I have lost 80% of my games since I joined. But you want to know something those 20% that I won sure felt good. That's why I play this game.......

gxtmf1

Did Liz post any articles? If so, what will happen to them?

atomichicken
chess_kebabs wrote:
atomichicken wrote:
chess_kebabs wrote: 

Anton told me he came home one night drunk...his games were stalled and he made the mistake to use an engine... a mistake he truly regrets.


You don't really believe that do you? The staff have said themselves they need to build up a significant pool of games to be used as evidence of cheating in order to ban someone. They're not going to ban someone if that person used an engine for only one nights playing.


No, I know it wasn't a one time offence... and like I said before it is inexcusable... and again saying I understand the strong stance taken by staff and I support it. He is a good friend here... and is very remorseful and feels rotten for letting down many members, staff and himself. I still think he is a great guy. His hard work towards the site for no financial gain shows the good side of him...  


 Ok, sorry I mis-understood your statement.

Kupov
chess_kebabs wrote:

I personally don't understand why anyone wants to cheat. Well I understand why they want to, because to boost their ratings... but I don't understand why they don't want to do it the honest way... why the points matter that much to them... I guess for glory and to boost their egos. But I wouldn't detest anyone for it... it's not like they murdered anyone. Having said that, I fully support Erik's hard-core crack-down approach to stamping out cheating as long as no innocents are chucked out in the process... I am trusting there isn't?


lol <3

gxtmf1

What if someone just played the best game of her/his life? A true perfect game? Will they be "caught" for "cheating"?

Kupov

I don't think the level of play is the deciding factor when it comes  to discovering whether a player is cheating or not.

We have strong (titled) players here who are playing very strong chess and are not suspected of cheating.

Nytik
gxtmf1 wrote:

What if someone just played the best game of her/his life? A true perfect game? Will they be "caught" for "cheating"?


 Players who are banned for cheating are not banned on the basis of one game. Many games must be tried and tested. There is always a 99.9999% certainty before chess.com decides to ban anyone.

Kupov
Nytik wrote:
gxtmf1 wrote:

What if someone just played the best game of her/his life? A true perfect game? Will they be "caught" for "cheating"?


 Players who are banned for cheating are not banned on the basis of one game. Many games must be tried and tested. There is always a 99.9999% certainty before chess.com decides to ban anyone.


While I don't disagree with you, I would like to know how you know that.

Nytik
Kupov wrote:
Nytik wrote:
gxtmf1 wrote:

What if someone just played the best game of her/his life? A true perfect game? Will they be "caught" for "cheating"?


 Players who are banned for cheating are not banned on the basis of one game. Many games must be tried and tested. There is always a 99.9999% certainty before chess.com decides to ban anyone.


While I don't disagree with you, I would like to know how you know that.


 http://www.chess.com/groups/home/cheating-forum

Kupov

I'm not a member of that group though D:

Kupov

D:

Nytik

 That's not very nice, I only try to help the site... Frown

shadowslayer

Maybe if someone wanted to still play chess, they would only be able to play unrated matches; maybe they could have a graphic next to their name or something? Because I have a feiling that you find the I.P. and we never hear from them again.

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