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Actually no it doesn't. You get a free trial and then you don't get to play at all, but you get no actual advantage during the games while you are on the free trial.
The chess.com game timeout protection has already saved me quite a lot of rating points and I agree with the original poster 100% that subscribing players will have a playing advantage.
In fact they'll have a huge advantage because they can dictate when the game goes into 'vacation' time and they'll have more vacation time. So basically a paying member could have 30 or more days of thinking time on his move than his opponent.
Even without that though - every game you don't lose because of auto timeout protection gives you a rating advantage.
That being said I don't really care - chess.com is a business. I think the advantage is well worth the benefits of having a commercial chess site that is constantly improving.
Zenchess wrote:
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The chess.com game timeout protection has already saved me quite a lot of rating points and I agree with the original poster 100% that subscribing players will have a playing advantage.
In fact they'll have a huge advantage because they can dictate when the game goes into 'vacation' time and they'll have more vacation time. So basically a paying member could have 30 or more days of thinking time on his move than his opponent.
Even without that though - every game you don't lose because of auto timeout protection gives you a rating advantage.
That being said I don't really care - chess.com is a business. I think the advantage is well worth the benefits of having a commercial chess site that is constantly improving.
So, why not S 200 starting-bids to claim a win?
If no one would, it would still cost chess.com nothing!
How would buying a win help anything in any way? Even if it was a dollar it would contradict the whole site's purpose. (to learn, in case that escaped you)
I also doubt that this is not a sarcastic thread.
Dawley wrote:
How would buying a win help anything in any way? Even if it was a dollar it would contradict the whole site's purpose. (to learn, in case that escaped you)
I also doubt that this is not a sarcastic thread.
Everything that applies to buying-a-win applies to auto-timeout protection-on-payment *equally* (in case that escaped you).
Why anyone will pay for a win ? And if you really wish to get point for money I am sure many players will resign if you offer a fraction of $ 200 ! Instead cash prize money tournaments can be much better idea.
Arunchess, chessbee - have you even heard the phrase 'reading between the lines'?
*Even* Dawley does a less worse 'reading between the lines' job than you two...
Auto timing out and your buying a win idea are completely different. Buying a win--the buyer wins. Auto timeout(with premium) nobody wins.
Where's the connection?
Okay why do y'all care about who gets these incremental advantages in turn-based chess? I was once a non-premium member till I was given a membership as a gift, and I didn't notice any advantages during the transition, namely because I don't take vacation time. I mean, seriously, 3 days/move is a freaking eternity. As a player who is growing and developing, I've seen my playing style and playing strength improve in the middle of games because a 3 day/move game can take like 5 months to finish, even if you're making moves in a daily basis because your opponent is really slow.
Turn-based ratings are going to be inflated anyway, which is why I think this site does incredibly DUMB things like knocking down your average opponent rating. Just recently I beat a 1900+ rated player, but because he lost over 50 points when he lost, my best win ever is only against a 1850-something player =/ Oh well; who cares? My Live Chess ratings more accurately reflects my play strength, and that's the rating I tend to put more stock in.
Dawley wrote:
Auto timing out and your buying a win idea are completely different. Buying a win--the buyer wins. Auto timeout(with premium) nobody wins.
Where's the connection?
Okay, okay, Arunchess, chessbee, I stand corrected -
Dawley does NOT do a less worse 'reading between the lines' job than you two...
Sigh...let me try one more time to make sense of this rather ridiculous ontological quandary. *cough*
1. You say premium members get a playing advantage, (auto timeout) since they contributed to the site. "playing" is a debatable word here. As in...helping you win the game? No. Assisting in convenience? Yes.
2. As another improvement, you sarcastically imply that if there's going to be auto timeouts, we might as well be able to bid for the win. Now...I have nothing to add here. If this makes sense in your own head, then please share it. I suggest to anyone who can see any connection between #1 and #2 to see a doctor immediately.
Have you tried the ukulele? I think you'd like it.
ok so ICC has a playing advantage after x amount of time then 
unklecyril wrote:
Have you tried the ukulele? I think you'd like it.
Just b****r off, will ya?
haha...'the best chess money can buy'.....
Normajean...it's an opening - The Ukulele Opening! 1 d4 f6 2 g3 g6 3 a3...Almost a Reti, almost a Grob, but based on the key of E major! Gives white an advantage. Check opening explorer, and leads to an intriguing game for intuative players.
All in all, if you're worried that timing out will hurt your turn-based rating, spend more than 5-15 minutes analyzing any given position, and you're will to pay $200 to earn like 20 points that you could just as easily earn by not sucking, then you're probably not a very good player.
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Normajean...it's an opening - The Ukulele Opening! 1 d4 f6 2 g3 g6 3 a3...Almost a Reti, almost a Grob, but based on the key of E major! Gives white an advantage. Check opening explorer, and leads to an intriguing game for intuative players.
listen, c****p, this is off-topic. The more so on my lyrics-blog. Not to say that it is horse manure, the 'opening'.
But may be horse manure is your favourite breakfast? Well, who am I to complain? none of my business.
Inspired by the fact that chess.com is the only *chess* site I know of which gives a *playing* advantage to premium members [namely auto-timeout protection], I propose another improvement:
In any given ongoing game, at any time, either or both player(s) can bid for a win. The highest bidder will be awarded the game. Minimum bid: $ 200.
Then chess.com gets cash-flow, and can also use the advertisement tagline:
"chess.com offers the best chess money can buy".
I am serious.
Legal problems with that? Move server to Nevada. Or something.