The Unacceptable Flaw with Chess.com: Use of Game Explorer/DB in Vote/Turn Chess

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uri65
dstokkink wrote:

"PeterB1517 wrote:

   dsstoink (pick a better name if you want people to spell it right):

Peter, I use my real name, sorry you are so stupid you can't type it.

 

Bravo! Somebody should write step-by-step instruction on how to use copy-paste function.

PeterB1517

tubebender's recent message made me remember a recent post by someone providing a link of thread about a person complaining about analysis board.  I don't feel like searching for it.  I've already said that I find no problem with that in TBC.

Captain_Coconut
PeterB1517 wrote:

I just said, I wasn't going to bother searching for Coconut's messages on other threads, but perhaps, if I get time, I will do it, just to see if I'm right about his behavior.

I understood what you meant, go for it.  Search on other forums too, I don't mind.

Although I'm sure we won't be hearing anything about it if you discover you're wrong.

DiogenesDue
uri65 wrote:

By the way have you tried Chess960? It's fun and fits pretty well your idea of playing "on your own".

Chess960 would be the perfect answer for Peter, if he weren't convinced that that there is only one true way to play chess and that the game must be cleansed...

One thing is abundantly clear after all this:  Peter is not interested in making sure he and his invisible horde of supporters can play the game the way he prefers...he is only concerned with making sure others cannot play the game the way they prefer.  

Everything about his position is judgmental and based on holier-than-thou righteousness.

- Chess is a perfect game, created by God, and must be preserved as Peter sees it

- We are all pitiable sinners, who cannot understand what's good for us and the game, and we must have our cheating methods removed from our use, so that we can play the game as God intends it to be.  Since we cannot understand that we are sinning, it is up to Peter, who knows better than us all, to decide for us what the game should be.

- Chess.com is blessed by God with success, yet does evil with their supreme power over the chess world (FIDE is nothing) and must be brought low with the mighty sword of an avenging archangel (Peter).

- Only Peter knows what has to be done, but he needs help, and so it is up to we sinners to find him the history of chess rules, and to help him write a better guide (since everyone sins, we'd better write a guide to sinning correctly to level the playing field).  We resist, and are fools, for if only we would do his bidding, we would all be playing a purer and more beautiful chess, and would be sublimely happy.

- Peter stands firm using his own name, and those that use names that cannot be understood are hiding something.  Once this is all over and Peter has shown us he is right, his name will be exalted and remembered among the greats of Chess.

That's the fantasy we are combating here.

PeterB1517

Coconut, was there a reason you chose James Joyce Ulysses?  Was there a reason you chose that segment/chapter?  I didn't read the text from the book you provided, but would maybe if there is a point.  But you were impressed with the book?

Captain_Coconut
PeterB1517 wrote:

Coconut, was there a reason you chose James Joyce Ulysses?  Was there a reason you chose that segment/chapter?  I didn't read the text from the book you provided, but would maybe if there is a point.  But you were impressed with the book?

You kept posting new stuff while ignoring what had been said.  It was a "taste of your own medicine," and it seemed to work, at least temporarily.  That was the point, not the content.  It served its purpose, which is why I had gone back and deleted it.  As you said, it makes it difficult for anyone to navigate through what's been said.

I haven't read it, and didn't mean to imply that I had.

Irontiger
Captain_Coconut wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean when you say "I'm not a polytheist christian," and it seems that you don't know what you mean either.

Well, there are some possibilities like this one, but most require that the OP is 800+ years old.

...sticking to the hijacking plans...

Captain_Coconut

...or we could let it die.

Although I have a feeling that Peter's simply been scouring the internet for anything abrasive that I've ever said to anyone, like he threatened to do.

PeterB1517

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00DB39V2Q?cache=25bf26be72402bd56c6faf3cdbc97c74&pi=AC_SX110_SY165_QL70&qid=1415151846&sr=8-1#ref=mp_s_a_1_1

PeterB1517

How Jesus Became God:

"New York Times bestselling author and Bible expert Bart Ehrman reveals how Jesus’s divinity became dogma in the first few centuries of the early church.

The claim at the heart of the Christian faith is that Jesus of Nazareth was, and is, God. But this is not what the original disciples believed during Jesus’s lifetime—and it is not what Jesus claimed about himself. How Jesus Became God tells the story of an idea that shaped Christianity, and of the evolution of a belief that looked very different in the fourth century than it did in the first.

A master explainer of Christian history, texts, and traditions, Ehrman reveals how an apocalyptic prophet from the backwaters of rural Galilee crucified for crimes against the state came to be thought of as equal with the one God Almighty, Creator of all things. But how did he move from being a Jewish prophet to being God? In a book that took eight years to research and write, Ehrman sketches Jesus’s transformation from a human prophet to the Son of God exalted to divine status at his resurrection. Only when some of Jesus’s followers had visions of him after his death—alive again—did anyone come to think that he, the prophet from Galilee, had become God. And what they meant by that was not at all what people mean today.

Written for secular historians of religion and believers alike, How Jesus Became God will engage anyone interested in the historical developments that led to the affirmation at the heart of Christianity: Jesus was, and is, God."

Captain_Coconut

More performance art, Peter?

It's interesting, but I don't see how it's relevant.

Or is this your response to my Ulysses posts?

PeterB1517

Coconut, I want to get back to this issue you feel I have been neglecting.  Partly, I haven't understood the dispute, so that's why I haven't responded.  You feel that I wrongly accused you of disagreeing with my God post including the High Holiday quote?  When in fact, you did not disagree with it, and were one of the few, who you say, did not disagree with it?

PeterB1517

And moreover, I wouldn't admit that I was wrong to falsely accuse you of that.  If I understand, that is your position.

_Number_6

#730 + #731

Quintuple negative?  I need an aspirin but I'm impressed!

PeterB1517

Well, one of the differences in my limited understanding of religion, is that Judaism emphasizes behavior while Christianity emphasizes faith.

But probably both acknowledge both, and I may misunderstand.  Here's a good Christian quote I just found: https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James+2:14-26

But if you believe that High Holiday quote, that God judges you, and in some way, rewards or punishes you for your behavior (and other aspects of you, and sometimes what happens to you has nothing to do about you, but part of a bigger plan, even catastrophes, and I would even argue, It [trying to not have a gender for God] does allow evil like the Holocaust as part of a bigger plan), then your behavior matters.  And for you, to go on to a thread, and accuse the "OP" repeatedly of being insane, a nutjob, crazy, whether true or not true, is deeply offensive along with other insults.  If you can do that behavior, then you can do other cruel behavior on the Internet and in life, and so you need to reflect and attone which is the purpose of the 10 days between Rosh Hashanah (the start of the year) and Yom Kippur (the  holiest day of the year, and the Day of Attonement).

PeterB1517

And yes, it is my belief that:

  • God helped create and spread chess because it is good and does good in peoples' lives.  You certainly aren't doing bad while doing it.
  • It is undeniable of all the benefits of chess.
  • God has enabled Chess.com through many small changes of fate and circumstance to allow Chess.com to reach its current level of success for a reason.  This isn't to discount what the team members have done, but if you look at the success, it is almost beyond what could have been imagined.
  • I think, though you all disagree, God wants people to play this game on their own.
  • And the question for Chess.com is what else can they do to fulfill their divine purpose?
toiyabe

Lmao

 

*scurries away*  

Captain_Coconut

Ah, I thought you were accusing me of being one of the insulting responders to that.  My mistake.  (See how easy that is?)

You'll have to excuse me if I don't believe that the holocaust was part of a divine plan.  I don't know of many Christians or Jews who would dream of saying something like that.

I'm confused by the context of your post.  Are you a Jew who just isn't that religious?  Are you assuming that I'm Jewish?  This seems like a very odd thing to come up with out of the blue.

I'm not Jewish, and no, I don't believe the theology you've presented.

I've done many wrong things in my life, but I don't think you're the person to be correcting anyone at this point, Peter.

You seem to be completely unable to admit wrong, and you've repeatedly claimed that correspondence chess is corrupt, that everyone else is cheating and they know it, that you know in your heart you are right despite proof to the contrary, and other things of that nature.  This isn't the behavior of someone who's mentally healthy, and saying so isn't "cruel behavior."

I can obviously be abrasive to someone who behaves like you, but you're the one who called me an asshole, said I wasn't very good at chess (amusing, because while true, it's not relevant, and I seem to be objectively better than you, FWIW), and other things of that nature.  I wasn't the one throwing out insults, you were.

Captain_Coconut

Add your last post to my list of things that a mentally healthy person wouldn't say, especially the last two things.

toiyabe

BTW Peter, Bart Ehrman is agnostic.  I would be more hesitant on using him to pedal your ignorant religious garbage.  (I own 3 books by him, he's done a lot of important NT research).