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JamieDelarosa
Wolfbird wrote:

The intel from the bush admin was created in order to go to war. Once there, military lawmakers worked to change laws to make torture legal.

This is a great book. I recommend it to anyone who wants to know how it all went down.

 

Don't forget this one!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or this one!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There is nothing quite as funny as watching Bush Derangement Syndrome in action

JamieDelarosa
DrSpudnik wrote:
Wolfbird wrote:

Laws were changed in the military law to accomadate the torture and the other previously unlawful things. The lawyers tweeked the law just enough to make it legal. Manipulation is easy when you want something bad enough.

They actually didn't change any laws, they just reinterpreted them to the point of meaninglessness. They all belong in a cage at The Hague.

I had almost forgotten how hilarious leftist grumbling can be. :-)

DrSpudnik
JamieDelarosa wrote:
DrSpudnik wrote:
Wolfbird wrote:

Laws were changed in the military law to accomadate the torture and the other previously unlawful things. The lawyers tweeked the law just enough to make it legal. Manipulation is easy when you want something bad enough.

They actually didn't change any laws, they just reinterpreted them to the point of meaninglessness. They all belong in a cage at The Hague.

I had almost forgotten how hilarious leftist grumbling can be. :-)

Oooh! Good one! Bazinga!

JamieDelarosa

The displays of righteous indignation are so dramatic!

kco
JamieDelarosa wrote:

The displays of righteous indignation are so dramatic!

Talking about yourself.

JamieDelarosa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxauqa7rJgI

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

DrSpudnik

Wolfbird

Rick Astley is SO underrated. Sealed

RonaldJosephCote

   Do you have anything to say for the Paris victims PG ?                                                             UndecidedOn second thought,  never mind kid, you haven't been here long enought to know how threads NORMALLY work.

RonaldJosephCote

          Over 200,000 people have died in Syria in the past 4.5 years.                                             That's a Paris attack EVERY SINGLE DAY                                                                              That's what refugees are fleeing.

DrinkingLikeTal

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RonaldJosephCote

    Oh that's a good one Wes Craven. He's--PB4 has been here for 3 months. I've had mutings longer than that.  But the 28,400 people who have viewed this thread will make mental notes on WHO hasn't expressed any concern at all for the victims. In PB's case, so what? He's a kid. ouuuuu maybe a whole 20. But kco's been here for 4 yrs maybe longer. With his 50 threads of "Thoughts for The Day".  What a load of CRAP!Frown But he can come to THIS thread, insult them, attack them, degrade them, and then go to another thread and do the same thing. Hey Isis, if your listening, attack Australia next. Afterall, we wouldn't want to express concern for THOSE victims.

Ghostliner
RonaldJosephCote wrote:

      So are you a terrorists sympathiser Ghostliner?

No I'm not a terrorist sympathiser. Unlike you, obviously.

Ghostliner

The leaders of the Free West have issued this joint public statement to chess.com members:

 

"The West is bitterly opposed to Islamic State, a sworn enemy that we vow to destroy utterly, come what may. Except when we are not opposed to Islamic State, in which case it is a dear friend, one we vow to support through thick-and-thin, come what may. The fact that Saudi Arabia is sitting on the largest oil reserve on the planet is, we assure you, entirely coincidental.

Naturally, this will require some tortured mental gymnastics on your part but, as you are all patzers who play chess parrot-fashion anyway and have thus demonstrated that you are easily led by the nose, we are confident you will stay up to speed with this.

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Rishi9

War in Iraq was a mistake but doesn't that belong to the past ?

Republicans lost two elections after that and Bush left as a very unpopular President.

This is a Paris attack thread. France opposed the war in Iraq,why did they suffer these terrorist attacks ?

Given a choice even Obama wouldn't want to carry out those drone attacks, but the situation in ME needs to stabilize before Americans stop the bombings. It would be disaster to leave the region in hands of Al Qaida or ISIS.

Ghostliner
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Ghostliner
Rishi9 wrote:

War in Iraq was a mistake but doesn't that belong to the past ?

 

Republicans lost two elections after that and Bush left as a very unpopular President.

 

This is a Paris attack thread. France opposed the war in Iraq,why did they suffer these terrorist attacks ?

 

Given a choice even Obama wouldn't want to carry out those drone attacks, but the situation in ME needs to stabilize before Americans stop the bombings. It would be disaster to leave the region in hands of Al Qaida or ISIS.

In other words, all Muslims are fanatical extremists.

Rishi9

I am not saying all Muslims are fanatics but leaving ME right now would leave the place in hands of fanatics.

Saddam Hussein for example was not a fanatic. It was blunder to pull him down.

Ghostliner
Rishi9 wrote:

I am not saying all Muslims are fanatics but leaving ME right now would leave the place in hands of fanatics.

 

Saddam Hussein for example was not a fanatic. It was blunder to pull him down.

Ok. 

A couple of points though. Islamic Extremism has spread rapidly throughout the whole of the ME and North Africa. However, it's social base has been waning quickly as well, that's because by far the biggest victims of Islamist violence are Muslims.

The bombing campaign by the West makes it very difficult, perhaps impossible, for anyone to build a coherent political voice that's capable of posing a challenge to the extremist trend, how can anyone be expected to do this when they are too busy pulling bodies out of the rubble?

As for your last point, I can only agree. In Britain we have a saying: when you're in a hole, stop digging.

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