December_TwentyNine wrote:
Whenever you time cheat, you risk the idea of it malfunctioning and once that happens, there's no telling what it's going to do.
whenever you say time cheat, your talking about your looks right?
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December_TwentyNine wrote:
Oh hunnie actually I was talking about the time cheating device, that is built specifically for time cheating.
sometimes i really dont get your terminologies in one forum you say time cheating is basically you using girl pfps while now its about a certain device, well its cool ig
ExploringWA wrote:
December. Why are you trolling children again?
she is a guy who loves puppet love, just roll with it as she aint harming anyone
ExploringWA wrote:
Fuchuina wrote:
ExploringWA wrote:
December. Why are you trolling children again?
she is a guy who loves puppet love, just roll with it as she aint harming anyone
I’m guessing alcohol is involved.
maybe but as long as its not extreme, were all good
December_TwentyNine wrote:
Let me push on them what they would otherwise push on me:
They are men living in their mom's basement, pretending to be little kids.
ig a 16 yr old can be considered a man but i am more of a teen
December_TwentyNine wrote:
Fuchuina wrote:
maybe but as long as its not extreme, were all good
I break anyone of the rules in the TOS
I don't talk about other forms of cheating, because apparently chess.com doesn't mind us talking about time cheating
I don't create threads that discuss other forbidder topics.
I don't attack, demoralize or threaten anyone.
I think I'm good.
who is the time cheater here me?
Nov 23, 2021
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#28
This never happens to me..
On the other hand on ChessKid it happens ALL the time when my opponent is in time pressure... I have 10 mins, and my opponent has 1 min, and I have a perfect connection...suddenly it says he has '11' and I have '1' and it was literally the 3rd move....
December_TwentyNine wrote:
Fuchuina wrote:
ig a 16 yr old can be considered a man but i am more of a teen
Then I can say that I'm a 5 year old little child who complains about the husband.
But truth be told:
Why discuss this? It's no one's business, really.
thats kinda of a weird exaggeration but my point was that i am not like someone in his mid 20's living in a basement on a computer, i am just a teen close to being a adult and thats it
oh so the pfp thing, looks are rlly weird tbh i cant even tell what your saying at times with that word since your not really talking about cheating, just something very odd or different
MGleason wrote:
Sounds like a connectivity issue. See https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444849-why-did-the-clock-times-suddenly-change-the-clocks-seem-broken-?b_id=12321.
It's not necessarily connectivity problems on your end. Just somewhere between you and the server.
There is no way to hack the clocks. Anyone who had that kind of control over the server would be looking for financial information, trade secrets, personal information, something they could sell on the dark web, etc. Cheating in a few games would be very low on the priority list. See this thread in the Cheating Forum for more information: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/on-hacking-the-interface-clocks-etc-possibilities-and-practicalities
This argument was given to me ten years ago when I reported that a player made about twelve moves in 1.8 seconds and won a game I should have won, and I was told "lag issues", which I knew was impossible, but couldn't prove.
I disagree with the stock argument. Yes, people who develop hacking programs are usually doing it for money: but not always. In any case, what better way to test your ability and to demonstrate it to others than to employ it in such an apparently innocent environment? The same goes for connecting an engine, directly to your computer and switching it in. It must be possible and if it's possible, there will be those who will do it.
(I'm surprised this thread wasn't locked, because the proper place for such a discussion is in the relevant club.)
Nov 24, 2021
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#33
Optimissed wrote:
MGleason wrote:
Sounds like a connectivity issue. See https://support.chess.com/customer/en/portal/articles/1444849-why-did-the-clock-times-suddenly-change-the-clocks-seem-broken-?b_id=12321.
It's not necessarily connectivity problems on your end. Just somewhere between you and the server.
There is no way to hack the clocks. Anyone who had that kind of control over the server would be looking for financial information, trade secrets, personal information, something they could sell on the dark web, etc. Cheating in a few games would be very low on the priority list. See this thread in the Cheating Forum for more information: https://www.chess.com/clubs/forum/view/on-hacking-the-interface-clocks-etc-possibilities-and-practicalities
This argument was given to me ten years ago when I reported that a player made about twelve moves in 1.8 seconds and won a game I should have won, and I was told "lag issues", which I knew was impossible, but couldn't prove.
I disagree with the stock argument. Yes, people who develop hacking programs are usually doing it for money: but not always. In any case, what better way to test your ability and to demonstrate it to others than to employ it in such an apparently innocent environment? The same goes for connecting an engine, directly to your computer and switching it in. It must be possible and if it's possible, there will be those who will do it.
The simple fact is that in order to manipulate the clocks, someone would need full access to the chess.com Live server process at a very low level. If they are able to get that kind of access, they aren't going to waste their time manipulating the clocks on few games (and would never lose on time either if they did).
Nov 24, 2021
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#34
I am afraid your brain cheated you out of intelligence since there is no clock cheating.
That was someone else's suggestion. I just support the plug-in engine theory.
Nov 24, 2021
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#36
December_TwentyNine wrote:
nTzT wrote:
I am afraid your brain cheated you out of intelligence since there is no clock cheating.
You are sadly mistaken hunnie.
I "Clock Cheat," (a.k.a. Time Cheat) all the time. Why I just came back from the 1952 world chess championship, I time cheated against Aleksandr Kotov and Tigran Petrosian and I won millions and millions of dollars for defeating them both. They were not aware that I'm just an anime girl using a time cheater for financial benefit. Plus I may learn a thing or two about chess in the process.
So there.
there are time hackers and others that plug in chess computer
Nov 24, 2021
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#39
Optimissed wrote:
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I disagree with the stock argument. Yes, people who develop hacking programs are usually doing it for money: but not always. In any case, what better way to test your ability and to demonstrate it to others than to employ it in such an apparently innocent environment? The same goes for connecting an engine, directly to your computer and switching it in. It must be possible and if it's possible, there will be those who will do it.
Again, the problem with the idea of time cheating is that there is no way a client-side script could manipulate the server-side clocks.
Time cheating would not actually be possible unless you have low-level access to the live server. Since chess.com uses high-quality security systems, the probability of someone managing that level of unauthorised access is pretty low. And it is simply not credible that there is an army of super-hackers who have managed to gain low-level access to the servers and choose to exploit their access by doing nothing more than cheating in a few games.
People run into this all the time, so it's clearly something pretty common. What's very common and is a very plausible explanation for what they're seeing? Internet lag.
As for the guy who made 12 moves in 1.8 seconds, a premove is 0.1 seconds. In certain positions, 12 moves in 1.8 seconds is actually quite plausible for someone who is very quick with their mouse and can queue up multiple premoves. Look at some @Hikaru bullet games and you might even be able to find some examples.
I've even seen a couple players play a rigged (unrated) 1|0 bullet game that went to several hundred moves - they just used premoves and shuffled their pieces around to see how many moves they could get in before running out of time.
Nov 24, 2021
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#40
ExploringWA wrote:
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In my case it was a 700 rated player who had one second on the clock. It was an even game. All of a sudden in that one second, he made 11 pre moves that included promoting a piece, and chasing down my King from the center of the board to checkmate. It was a complicated series of moves including his King, Queen, and a pawn. I am fairly certain it was not on the up and up. How it was done is beyond me.
Probably he actually had more like 1.1 or 1.2 seconds or more. The game takes a minimum of 0.1 seconds off for every move, even a premove.
As for how he made the moves that quickly: legitimate premoves are a possibility if your moves were easy to predict (or at least, if his move was obvious no matter what you did). Another possibility would be a bot that played instantly, although it would be an unusual method of cheating to wait until the last second to turn it on.
cool