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Ubik42
johnmusacha wrote:

I skimmed through Chapter Nine.  Not really the greatest work.  It said nothing about the issue above, in any case.

I think a tip-off concerning the suitability of this "e Book" comes from who published it:

SOCIETY FOR PROMOTING CHRISTIAN KNOWLEDGE, NORTHUMBERLAND AVENUE, CHARING CROSS, S.W.; 43, QUEEN VICTORIA STREET, E.C.; 48, PICCADILLY, W.; AND 135, NORTH STREET, BRIGHTON.
 
lolz!

You really need to develop some googling skills. it isnt hard.

http://books.google.com/books?id=75Ohv8O6dJIC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=Christianisation+of+the+Anglo-Saxon+Kingdoms&source=bl&ots=m_LrVtHMkf&sig=XUqzFPbMb0jrwiT8aHD3KoQ__hU&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MVFHU6eUJpKmsASPnoG4Ag&ved=0CFQQ6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=Christianisation%20of%20the%20Anglo-Saxon%20Kingdoms&f=false

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianisation_of_Anglo-Saxon_England 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_Christianity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_England

http://histclo.com/chron/ancient/ger/inv/eng/ask-ch.html

https://www.uni-due.de/SHE/HE_GermanicInvasions.htm

http://books.google.com/books?id=FUufOm0KTcgC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=Christianisation+of+the+Anglo-Saxon+Kingdoms&source=bl&ots=XzYYxpZPnU&sig=F6nXWLdA5s3wy_Tj0Vwg2hRrmOM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MVFHU6eUJpKmsASPnoG4Ag&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Christianisation%20of%20the%20Anglo-Saxon%20Kingdoms&f=false

http://books.google.com/books?id=XjTI-RGgrUIC&pg=PA190&lpg=PA190&dq=Christianisation+of+the+Anglo-Saxon+Kingdoms&source=bl&ots=HDXDgDifQS&sig=UCZ-Vu_LyzrQDYbrV9OaXEMTEWA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=IlJHU5KIA7agsQTLxoEY&ved=0CDYQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=Christianisation%20of%20the%20Anglo-Saxon%20Kingdoms&f=false

http://www.britainexpress.com/History/Early_Christian_Britain.htm

http://www.ukessays.com/essays/history/exploring-the-christian-mission-in-anglo-saxon-britain-history-essay.php

My fingers are getting tired. i suspect I could paste links here for hours.

johnmusacha

Ubik, if you were interested, good on ya, for it is a fascinating subject and that era of the Anglo-Saxon overrunning of Britain has been immortalized in the King Arthur tales.  

However, you could spend from here to eternity on the internet trying to research the issue of how the Christianization of Anglo-Saxon England, which began in 597, may or may not have been influenced by any lingering Romano-Celtic populations...and not be able to learn enough to come to an informed conclusion.

Ubik42
johnmusacha wrote:

Ubik, if you were interested, good on ya, for it is a fascinating subject and that era of the Anglo-Saxon overrunning of Britain has been immortalized in the King Arthur tales.  

However, you could spend from here to eternity on the internet trying to research the issue of how the Christianization of Anglo-Saxon England, which began in 597, may or may not have been influenced by any lingering Romano-Celtic populations...and not be able to learn enough to come to an informed conclusion.

Ah, one of the fun things about these kind of debates. No definitive answers, so the debates go on forevor.

johnmusacha
Ubik42 wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

I skimmed through Chapter Nine.  Not really the greatest work.  It said nothing about the issue above, in any case.

I think a tip-off concerning the suitability of this "e Book" comes from who published it:

SOCIETY FOR PROMOTING CHRISTIAN KNOWLEDGE, NORTHUMBERLAND AVENUE, CHARING CROSS, S.W.; 43, QUEEN VICTORIA STREET, E.C.; 48, PICCADILLY, W.; AND 135, NORTH STREET, BRIGHTON.
 
lolz!

You really need to develop some googling skills. it isnt hard.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianisation_of_Anglo-Saxon_England 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_Christianity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_England

http://histclo.com/chron/ancient/ger/inv/eng/ask-ch.html

https://www.uni-due.de/SHE/HE_GermanicInvasions.htm

http://books.google.com/books?id=FUufOm0KTcgC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=Christianisation+of+the+Anglo-Saxon+Kingdoms&source=bl&ots=XzYYxpZPnU&sig=F6nXWLdA5s3wy_Tj0Vwg2hRrmOM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=MVFHU6eUJpKmsASPnoG4Ag&ved=0CFEQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q=Christianisation%20of%20the%20Anglo-Saxon%20Kingdoms&f=false

http://www.ukessays.com/essays/history/exploring-the-christian-mission-in-anglo-saxon-britain-history-essay.php

My fingers are getting tired. i suspect I could paste links here for hours.

Ok, read all those links and get back to me with your answer to how the Christianization of Anglo-Saxon England, which began in 597, may or may not have been influenced by any lingering Romano-Celtic populations, and we'll talk.

I'm not in eighth grade, I think I moved beyond general essays on pre-1066 England quite some time ago.  Do you not understand the question?

You recommend me a wepage titled "Germanic invasions."  How helpful.

The issue is: how the Christianization of Anglo-Saxon England, which began in 597, may or may not have been influenced by any lingering Romano-Celtic populations.

Not, who are the Anglo-Saxons drrrr?  Where is "Germany"  What is a "missionary"?

Ubik42
johnmusacha wrote:
 get back to me with your answer to how the Christianization of Anglo-Saxon England, which began in 597, may or may not have been influenced by any lingering Romano-Celtic populations, and we'll talk.

I'm not in eighth grade, I think I moved beyond general essays on pre-1066 England quite some time ago.  Do you not understand the question?

You recommend me a wepage titled "Germanic invasions."  How helpful.

The issue is: how the Christianization of Anglo-Saxon England, which began in 597, may or may not have been influenced by any lingering Romano-Celtic populations.

Not, who are the Anglo-Saxons drrrr?  Where is "Germany"  What is a "missionary"?

You mean the Germanic tribes?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_confederations_of_Germanic_tribes 

My only interest in pasting links is to show the bottomless nature of information you can find. I dont have a current interest in the time period. Things I have an interest in googling for information on tend to be more scientific. The quanitity of inforamtion that I posted links to is far, far more than I ever intend on reading on the topic already.

johnmusacha
Ubik42 wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

Ubik, if you were interested, good on ya, for it is a fascinating subject and that era of the Anglo-Saxon overrunning of Britain has been immortalized in the King Arthur tales.  

However, you could spend from here to eternity on the internet trying to research the issue of how the Christianization of Anglo-Saxon England, which began in 597, may or may not have been influenced by any lingering Romano-Celtic populations...and not be able to learn enough to come to an informed conclusion.

Ah, one of the fun things about these kind of debates. No definitive answers, so the debates go on forevor.

Yes but here the edge goes to the actual expert in the field, not the google jockey.  And actual experts in the field don't post their findings on Twitter and Face-space.  Not in history, anyway.

But yes, this is one of those "one can debate it forever" topics.

Fifty years ago, the answer might have been:  No influence.  The Britons were all wiped out in a genocide.  Now, we are not so sure.

Wolfbird

Interesting that you ignore my question. I have a degree in Mass Media Communications.

johnmusacha

Oh, hi.  Sorry, I didn't even see your posts, Wolfbird, sorry.

What is the mass media to me?  The New York Times, Washington Post, CBS Evening News with Dan Rather.

Ubik42
johnmusacha wrote:
Ubik42 wrote:
johnmusacha wrote:

Ubik, if you were interested, good on ya, for it is a fascinating subject and that era of the Anglo-Saxon overrunning of Britain has been immortalized in the King Arthur tales.  

However, you could spend from here to eternity on the internet trying to research the issue of how the Christianization of Anglo-Saxon England, which began in 597, may or may not have been influenced by any lingering Romano-Celtic populations...and not be able to learn enough to come to an informed conclusion.

Ah, one of the fun things about these kind of debates. No definitive answers, so the debates go on forevor.

Yes but here the edge goes to the actual expert in the field, not the google jockey.  And actual experts in the field don't post their findings on Twitter and Face-space.  Not in history, anyway.

But yes, this is one of those "one can debate it forever" topics.

Fifty years ago, the answer might have been:  No influence.  The Britons were all wiped out in a genocide.  Now, we are not so sure.

Experts in the field have the edge over the library jockey also.

But if I read thouroughly even one of those links, I would have an edge over 99.9% of the population at large. Enough to make me incomprehensible on the topic.

I cannot discuss chess with my non chess playing friends except in the most general terms : "Yeah, I played in a tournament. It was long. I lost."

johnmusacha

Yeah probably, well maybe 99%.  But some people are that 1%.  Like those 1%er patches on biker gang jackets.

Ubik42

I am going to stand by 99.9%. I dont think 1 person in 100 knows squat about the christinisation process of anyone, most dont know how christians stole christmas from pagan rituals.

johnmusacha

I stole pagan rituals from Christmas!

Happy Julfest!  Laughing

johnmusacha

In any case, even a basic level Oxford English history book such as Frank Stenton's Anglo-Saxon England (1970), will give you a much fuller understanding of the Anglo-Saxon period than any rubbish "links" that appeal mostly to ADD-addled MTV kids.

The library researcher can find much better information in the library, as books are still the primary source of knowledge on history.  Not many of such books are available on line.  The google is "dumbing down" knowledge by promoting the idea that blurbs, summaries, and factoids are the equivalent of books.

And please spare me the expected counter-argument that "nobody has time to read books anymore."  That's not anyone's problem but their own.

sycophantastic

Wow, this thread is so informative!  All the posters are so interesting, insightful, and articulate!

sycophantastic

Thanks!  I love it here on chess.com!

winerkleiner

I love the free cheese!

rooperi
johnmusacha wrote:

In any case, even a basic level Oxford English history book such as Frank Stenton's Anglo-Saxon England (1970), will give you a much fuller understanding of the Anglo-Saxon period than any rubbish "links" that appeal mostly to ADD-addled MTV kids.

The library researcher can find much better information in the library, as books are still the primary source of knowledge on history.  Not many of such books are available on line.  The google is "dumbing down" knowledge by promoting the idea that blurbs, summaries, and factoids are the equivalent of books.

And please spare me the expected counter-argument that "nobody has time to read books anymore."  That's not anyone's problem but their own.

Using google, it took me seconds to find this complete work available for free online.

rooperi

Yeah, bunny.I probably got it wrong. The book I found was by a Frank Stenton who died in 1967, 3 years before the OP's book was published.

johnmusacha

You probably found some edition of Anglo-Saxon England.  Sir Frank Stenton died in 1967.  The 1970 edition was the first edition of the work published as part of the Oxford English History Series (volume 2), and the edition I own.  The book is still in print -- I believe in the 3d ed., copyright 2001.

The original first edition was published in 1943.  What edition did you find?  I'm curious since the google books search turned up the second edition from 1947 but wouldn't let me actually see any of the pages.

Thanks!

rooperi

1963 2nd edition